Posted On: Monday - August 14th 2023 6:40AM MST
In Topics: TV, aka Gov't Media Global Climate Stupidity Media Stupidity
Peak Stupidity, Unz Review (at least) commenter Mr. Anon brought up another good point regarding the subterfuge and underhanded agenda-driven "journalism" being done in the name of the Climate Calamity™, aka, Global Boiling now. (Ha! I just wonder if the many fence-sitters on this issue will be able to utter this new term with a straight face. I've written before that I think it was a mistake by the Totalitarians to come up with that, i.e., a Bridge too Far.)
In this comment of his under one of the few Steve Sailer posts on this highly-political issue, Mr. Anon brought up the fact that TV weather maps - not climate maps, mind you, were showing lots more "Heat Index" values instead of plain old dry-bulb temperature readings. This is their way of scaring the more gullible of the TV viewers into believing the narrative on Global Boiling*.
I get the purpose of the Heat Index along with its counterpart for cold weather, the Wind Chill. The idea is to get across the effect of the conditions - temperature and humidity for the former / temperature and wind speed for the latter - on the human body. There'll be another post on the physical principles involved in this, as I want to show some numbers in tabular form for both indices and also explain why the Heat Index is not quite the counterpart to the Wind Chill, with wind not being a factor in the former, and humidity not being a factor in the latter. For now, suffice it to say that our "real feel" is about heat transfer from our bodies, that being what is actually being felt by our nerves (with the possible exception of actual burning) rather than temperature itself.**
Our post title refers to the fact that both of these 2 derived factors are often called the "Real Feel". I'm sure they were originally published and displayed to be helpful. "Hey, viewers, it's gonna really suck out there today ..." or "The high will be 95F today, but it'll be dry with relative humidity way down. It's not the heat, it's ..." and all that. Sure.
Yet, let's not be alarmed by things that we've experienced our whole lives, at least in the time we've lived wherever we do. If you've moved to anywhere in Florida, well congrats, and I hope you appreciate the good Governor... but, anyway, yes, it's in the mid 80s to low 90s with high relative humidity a lot - much of the year. Without a sea breeze, the weather is often considered miserable. The climate can be considered miserable for half the year. It always has been, explaining why Florida was not the retirement/resort destination it is today before air conditioning. You're the guy who moved there, dumbass!***
These indices serve a purpose, but that purpose is not as comparison between daily or yearly highs, lows, or records. There are 2 values that go into the Heat Index, taking it as an example first. "The Heat Index is the highest we've seen since the summer of 1935!" Yeah, well, warm moist are from the Gulf came up, and before the thunderboomers broke loose later in the day, it was hot and humid. Yesterday it was hotter, but the air was dryer. Tomorrow, it'll cool off by 5 degrees with the same humidity. So you've got your sweet spot for the deep red map on the news tonight. Was this all predicted by your Global Climate model, is that what you're telling us? Nah, it's just the weather.
Taking the counterpart as an example now, "The wind chill is the lowest we've seen since 1885!" Well, it was very windy and pretty cold today. Yesterday, it was colder, but the wind hadn't picked up yet. Tomorrow, it'll be even windier, but it's going to be 10 degrees warmer. So, you've got that Deep Purple on the map that's you'd been waiting for... smoke on the water and fire in the freaking sky. Was all this too predicted by the models? Nah, it's just the weather.
This is no good. I just want to know the temperature, what it was, and what it's supposed to be, if your app isn't based on bad forecasting. I can figure how it's gonna feel outside, in the sun, in the rain, while standing like a dumbass with no shelter at 20F with 25 knots wind, etc.
When it comes to climate analysis, temperatures can be compared readily. Humidity by itself can too. Wind speeds can too. "Real Feels" can't, at least if the goal is to compare observation to modeling, as the 3 factors alone can't even be predicted worth a damn. It's a bridge WAY TOO FAR to predict what Real Feels will average in even some broad location 20 years from now.
So why are they displaying these when discussing the coming Global Boiling? People who are unaware of the change will see numbers like 108 degrees in Atlanta! and think "heck, yeah, I don't remember it ever being THAT hot." It Real-Feels-Like more lies. It's who they are.
No, it's not the heat (index), it's the stupidity! Man I'll be so glad when we reach The Point of No Return, so we can all (wind) chillax.
PS: When I was young, I too, was suckered into the misunderstanding - as one song (of a bunch of them) goes, "It's 110 in the shade ...". That's supposed to mean, imagine how hot it is under the sun?! Why don't they measure it there and give us a real feel?
Well, that's because engineers who develop the gauges want accurate and comparable values. Radiation heat transfer from the sun not only causes erroneous values of air temperature just by the added factor, but the effect would not be consistent, and it affects different temperature instruments differently. That's why the T and dew point**** gauges are inside wooden boxes with louvers to keep air flow going but only lightly... in the midst of recently paved parking lots sometimes ...
* "Not only does the Earth have a fever, but it's going through a phase change!"
** To understand this very quickly, just picture the difference between getting dunked into 50F lake water vs going outside in shirtsleeves when it's 50F. I can tell you which guy will live longer if it keeps up...
*** This is not directed at THE Alarmist, who does spend time in Florida. I too, appreciate the weather there, but it just takes some getting used to. I'd rather be hot than cold. It's a matter of not complaining and not being surprised about it. Mosquitoes, OTOH, yes, I've got complaints ...
**** T and dew point together will get us to absolute or relative humidity (the latter one is the one normally given in weather reports), as will T (i.e., dry-bulb T) and wet-bulb T, or, if you wish, dew point and wet-bulb T. Any 2 define the state. Word to the wise: The sling psychrometers that are used to get dry/wet bulb T's together can give you a headache if you don't sling them right.
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Jimbobla
Wednesday - August 16th 2023 5:21AM MST
PS Just a minor quibble. Hot dry air (high 90’s) will have similar, if opposite, heat index effect on your body. Pulling moisture off your skin before it can perform its cooling function through evaporative cooling. It also feels hotter when the wind is blowing. Florida residents will not have experience with this, but high desert residents will. As stated, though, just a minor point.
Moderator
Wednesday - August 16th 2023 4:57AM MST
PS: Very interesting investigations there, Mr. Hail. I will do some checking myself.
The "auto completion" thing is interesting, as some of the time I'm pretty sure it's getting info off the user (your or my) cookie file of some sort. I'll see the full "Peak Stupidity" appear on a device in which I do searches for it with that search engine. Come to think of it, that's not the same as auto-complete though, just the recall of common searches, is it? There's a lot to this stuff.
You never know - the name of that good search "engine" might just come to your mind out of the blue one time soon. What's really ironic, I guess, is the lack of success in searching for that lost search engine USING a search engine.
The "auto completion" thing is interesting, as some of the time I'm pretty sure it's getting info off the user (your or my) cookie file of some sort. I'll see the full "Peak Stupidity" appear on a device in which I do searches for it with that search engine. Come to think of it, that's not the same as auto-complete though, just the recall of common searches, is it? There's a lot to this stuff.
You never know - the name of that good search "engine" might just come to your mind out of the blue one time soon. What's really ironic, I guess, is the lack of success in searching for that lost search engine USING a search engine.
Moderator
Wednesday - August 16th 2023 4:54AM MST
PS: 82F in Germany. Mein Gott, man!
People I've seen complain about it being 82F, yes, in the Summer, were residents of western Washington. They don't have A/C, because they hardly need it. When you're used to 65 to 75, even in the middle of the summer,, 82 seems excessive. But, it's not - it's freaking dry then! Dry air like California is what you've got during those too few long beautiful days out there within those 4 "summer" months.
People I've seen complain about it being 82F, yes, in the Summer, were residents of western Washington. They don't have A/C, because they hardly need it. When you're used to 65 to 75, even in the middle of the summer,, 82 seems excessive. But, it's not - it's freaking dry then! Dry air like California is what you've got during those too few long beautiful days out there within those 4 "summer" months.
The Alarmist
Wednesday - August 16th 2023 3:51AM MST
PS
My German colleagues don’t say much until temps are in the ‘90s, but their government has an agenda.
My Brit colleagues start moaning about the heat somewhere between 75° F to 80°F. This suits their government’s agenda just fine.
The funny thing is that more people die in the cold of winter, but that doesn’t suit the narrative.
My German colleagues don’t say much until temps are in the ‘90s, but their government has an agenda.
My Brit colleagues start moaning about the heat somewhere between 75° F to 80°F. This suits their government’s agenda just fine.
The funny thing is that more people die in the cold of winter, but that doesn’t suit the narrative.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 9:53PM MST
PS: Good evening, Mr. Hail,
Too bad you lost the name of this wondrous new search engine. I'll look for some magic list of alternative search engines and with a little luck perhaps we can find it.(?)
I'll give ecosia a try. It sounds interesting.
Yandex has been most helpful to me when searching peakstupidity. Tonight I searched:
- peak stupidity.com "wong kim ark" kamala harris -
and yandex quickly helped me find this page...
https://peakstupidity.com/blogworks.php?action=viewbpost&id=1568
Which, by coincidence, was from 3 years ago today.
Many thanks, Mr. Hail!
I hope you have a great evening!
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Too bad you lost the name of this wondrous new search engine. I'll look for some magic list of alternative search engines and with a little luck perhaps we can find it.(?)
I'll give ecosia a try. It sounds interesting.
Yandex has been most helpful to me when searching peakstupidity. Tonight I searched:
- peak stupidity.com "wong kim ark" kamala harris -
and yandex quickly helped me find this page...
https://peakstupidity.com/blogworks.php?action=viewbpost&id=1568
Which, by coincidence, was from 3 years ago today.
Many thanks, Mr. Hail!
I hope you have a great evening!
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Mr. Anon
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 7:27PM MST
PS
@The Alarmist
"I was at our German office today, and my iPhone flashed me a “High Temperature Warning” from the German Weather Service, which predicted a high temperature of 28°C ... which is a bit over 82°F."
My God! The horror! The unspeakable horror!
As if Germany has never seen temperatures in the low 80s. I'm pretty sure it has.
In my neck of the woods, 82 F would be a welcome cool-spell.
@The Alarmist
"I was at our German office today, and my iPhone flashed me a “High Temperature Warning” from the German Weather Service, which predicted a high temperature of 28°C ... which is a bit over 82°F."
My God! The horror! The unspeakable horror!
As if Germany has never seen temperatures in the low 80s. I'm pretty sure it has.
In my neck of the woods, 82 F would be a welcome cool-spell.
Mr. Anon
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 7:24PM MST
PS
@ Adam Smith
"I hope you gentlemen both have a great evening!"
And to you as well, Sir.
@ Adam Smith
"I hope you gentlemen both have a great evening!"
And to you as well, Sir.
Hail
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 1:14PM MST
PS
RE: Adam Smith ---
-- On search-engines, and probing for how much Peak Stupidity is suppressed --
I was browsing the latest Trump comments on Truth Social and found an advertised link to another purported new search-engine that doesn't use suppression algorithms against Peak Stupidity and such sites.
At this new search-engine, I tested it out on several keywords and sites, and sure enough both "Hail To You" and "Peak Stupidity" got excellent results.
The results for my website were reminiscent of the early-mid 2010s. I cannot make the same comparison for Peak Stupidity, as it didn't exist at the time and I didn't begin reading till 2018 at earliest (and not searching until the 2020s), by which time suppression was already in place.
Sadly, I lost the name of this search engine when my device died. I had never heard of it before and did not make a definite note of its name. I spent a half-hour or more trying to find it again, but gave up. In the half-hour search trying to find a lost search-engine, I also turned up several of interest but none spectacular. Notable is ECOSIA.
Ecosia seemed to have good results, although it fails to turn up #2624 at Peak Stupidity, which you were looking for.
One interesting thing on Ecosia is that if you type "peak stupidity" it suggests as auto-fills: "Peak Stupidity site" and "Peak Stupidity blog." On King Google, try typing "Peak Stu," and you will see a number of recommendations, none related to PeakStupidity.com; but if you then type a "p" (to make "Peak Stup"), all the auto-suggestions blank out. No more suggestions, nothing. Dead space. The searcher receives the signal: You are in a dead-zone, Monsters Be Here.
RE: Adam Smith ---
-- On search-engines, and probing for how much Peak Stupidity is suppressed --
I was browsing the latest Trump comments on Truth Social and found an advertised link to another purported new search-engine that doesn't use suppression algorithms against Peak Stupidity and such sites.
At this new search-engine, I tested it out on several keywords and sites, and sure enough both "Hail To You" and "Peak Stupidity" got excellent results.
The results for my website were reminiscent of the early-mid 2010s. I cannot make the same comparison for Peak Stupidity, as it didn't exist at the time and I didn't begin reading till 2018 at earliest (and not searching until the 2020s), by which time suppression was already in place.
Sadly, I lost the name of this search engine when my device died. I had never heard of it before and did not make a definite note of its name. I spent a half-hour or more trying to find it again, but gave up. In the half-hour search trying to find a lost search-engine, I also turned up several of interest but none spectacular. Notable is ECOSIA.
Ecosia seemed to have good results, although it fails to turn up #2624 at Peak Stupidity, which you were looking for.
One interesting thing on Ecosia is that if you type "peak stupidity" it suggests as auto-fills: "Peak Stupidity site" and "Peak Stupidity blog." On King Google, try typing "Peak Stu," and you will see a number of recommendations, none related to PeakStupidity.com; but if you then type a "p" (to make "Peak Stup"), all the auto-suggestions blank out. No more suggestions, nothing. Dead space. The searcher receives the signal: You are in a dead-zone, Monsters Be Here.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 11:43AM MST
PS: Greetings, Mr. Alarmist,
Oddly enough the thermometer on my porch says it's about 82°F (maybe 83°F) right now.
Must be climate change‽
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Oddly enough the thermometer on my porch says it's about 82°F (maybe 83°F) right now.
Must be climate change‽
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The Alarmist
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 10:34AM MST
PS
I was at our German office today, and my iPhone flashed me a “High Temperature Warning” from the German Weather Service, which predicted a high temperature of 28°C ... which is a bit over 82°F.
They’re really laying it on thick these days. I can’t wait for them to start pushing injectable anti-heat mRNA experimental gene therapeutics. It can’t be too far away. “Dr.” Lauterbach is probably already on the case.
I was at our German office today, and my iPhone flashed me a “High Temperature Warning” from the German Weather Service, which predicted a high temperature of 28°C ... which is a bit over 82°F.
They’re really laying it on thick these days. I can’t wait for them to start pushing injectable anti-heat mRNA experimental gene therapeutics. It can’t be too far away. “Dr.” Lauterbach is probably already on the case.
Moderator
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 2:34AM MST
PS: Mr. Anon, most of that will be part of the next post on this subject - but a China post first - except for your point on the cold air and humidity. I had not though of that last factor.
Adam Smith
Monday - August 14th 2023 10:45PM MST
PS: Good (late) evening, everyone,
Good night to you too, Mr. Moderator!
Mr. Anon... Like (pretty much) always, I agree!
I hope you gentlemen both have a great evening!
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Good night to you too, Mr. Moderator!
Mr. Anon... Like (pretty much) always, I agree!
I hope you gentlemen both have a great evening!
☮
Mr. Anon
Monday - August 14th 2023 9:05PM MST
PS
The humidity is important at high temperatures because it means that your sweat won't evaporate which is a significant cooling mechanism.
It's also important because a very large fraction of the heat capacity, and a significant fractino of the thermal conductivity, of air is due to the water vapor. That's why low thirties (but above 32 deg. F) can feel a lot colder than high twenties. Above freezing the air has some water vapor in it that can more effectively pull heat out of you (hence the "bone-chilling" damp cold). Below freezing, the air is dry and is a relatively good insulator (if it's not blowing on you).
The humidity is important at high temperatures because it means that your sweat won't evaporate which is a significant cooling mechanism.
It's also important because a very large fraction of the heat capacity, and a significant fractino of the thermal conductivity, of air is due to the water vapor. That's why low thirties (but above 32 deg. F) can feel a lot colder than high twenties. Above freezing the air has some water vapor in it that can more effectively pull heat out of you (hence the "bone-chilling" damp cold). Below freezing, the air is dry and is a relatively good insulator (if it's not blowing on you).
Moderator
Monday - August 14th 2023 9:00PM MST
PS: Very busy day, Adam. Yes, it' been hot this week in our area too. I'm glad the Yandex search worked. I'll have to start using it more.
Have a good night.
Have a good night.
Adam Smith
Monday - August 14th 2023 1:48PM MST
PS: Me again...
I found it...
https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=2624
Somehow I thought we discussed this long ago when apparently we discussed this just a month and a half ago.
PS: Mr. Hail's Pro Tip Worked! I just had to input the right key words into Yandex. In this case it was...
- peakstupidity.com "anchor babies" "presidency" -
Thanks again, Mr. Hail!
☮
I found it...
https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=2624
Somehow I thought we discussed this long ago when apparently we discussed this just a month and a half ago.
PS: Mr. Hail's Pro Tip Worked! I just had to input the right key words into Yandex. In this case it was...
- peakstupidity.com "anchor babies" "presidency" -
Thanks again, Mr. Hail!
☮
Adam Smith
Monday - August 14th 2023 1:15PM MST
PS: Hey Achmed,
I tried Mr. Hail's pro tip and searched peakstupidity.com with yandex for our conversation about kamala harris not being a natural born citizen but came up empty. (Maybe yandex changed their algorithm?) I'm curious if you can find it. It was the one where I had some cool examples of old law books clearly outlining what a natural born citizen is and bills presented to congress to change it's original meaning. I know I mentioned Vattel's Law of Nations and I might have mentioned the three legged stool.
I might have a copy on an old hard drive, and I might be able to cue in the right words on yandex and find it, but you may have more luck searching than I.
Anyway, I hope you have a great day!
☮
I tried Mr. Hail's pro tip and searched peakstupidity.com with yandex for our conversation about kamala harris not being a natural born citizen but came up empty. (Maybe yandex changed their algorithm?) I'm curious if you can find it. It was the one where I had some cool examples of old law books clearly outlining what a natural born citizen is and bills presented to congress to change it's original meaning. I know I mentioned Vattel's Law of Nations and I might have mentioned the three legged stool.
I might have a copy on an old hard drive, and I might be able to cue in the right words on yandex and find it, but you may have more luck searching than I.
Anyway, I hope you have a great day!
☮
Adam Smith
Monday - August 14th 2023 11:36AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Mr. Moderator,
96° (35°c) on the porch today. (That's pretty hot for us.)
Must be Global Roasting™!
https://i.ibb.co/QcQtvmP/Global-Roasting.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/TrYD8dz/Roasting-Earth.jpg
https://time.com/6258126/solar-geoengineering-billionaries-george-soros/
https://www.congress.gov/94/statute/STATUTE-90/STATUTE-90-Pg2359.pdf
http://www.weathermodification.com/
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96° (35°c) on the porch today. (That's pretty hot for us.)
Must be Global Roasting™!
https://i.ibb.co/QcQtvmP/Global-Roasting.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/TrYD8dz/Roasting-Earth.jpg
https://time.com/6258126/solar-geoengineering-billionaries-george-soros/
https://www.congress.gov/94/statute/STATUTE-90/STATUTE-90-Pg2359.pdf
http://www.weathermodification.com/
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I am not so sure I agree on the evaporation effect. The sweat is produced by your body when it needs cooling. That sweat is evaporating somewhere - are you saying it's evaporating after it's already just been sent out of your pores and has already left your skin? So the water (or some of it) leaves the skin when still in liquid form? Interesting.
The layer of sweat staying on our skin in warm moist air is not only uncomfortable due to it's just being there, all icky, but also due to its impeding heat transfer. (There's a thermal resistance to heat transfer from the skin to the sweat layer, then through the sweat layer, and then from that layer to the air.)
Time to put the 2nd post up, but I'll first put a basic intro on what I think of China after this recent trip.