Posted On: Wednesday - April 22nd 2020 8:29PM MST
In Topics: Immigration Stupidity Trump Pundits
President Trump tweeted out an encouraging piece of news of his intentions to sign an executive order to halt immigration for 60 days. Sounds like a 3-year belated good start of some kind, right?
I’ve just say right here that, as much as I liked and supported candidate Trump, my feeling now is this guy is nothing but a bullshitter. He may have sincerely meant what he wrote in that tweet even, who knows? However, he feels no compunction to make good on his word. He would have no problem with tweeting something just the opposite of this next week.
Even when Trump gets on a roll with an issue, he won’t follow through. Whatever E.O. he’d actually write on this, it’ll be “blocked by judges” or “those D’s!” “Just do it” is not a motto of the Trump Administration.
Anyway, the always hopeful Peter Brimelow, chief of VDare, is just glad that the word "moratorium" is being bandied about now, only 25 years after he suggested it - see Trump Has Put An Immigration Moratorium "In Play." Not Enough—But Something.
We haven't featured any Tucker Carlson clips here in most of a year. I've read lately (but not seen myself) that he'd gone a little overboard lately by blaming everything wrong on China. I'll have to look at some recent clips to decide. In this 8 minute clip about this E.O., President Trump, and the elite opposition to it (the American public is ~80% on board!), Tucker has done his usual excellent job. If nothing else, at least watch from 04:10 for about a minute as he eviscerates a statement by Beto O'Rourke. Kick ass, Tucker Carlson!
Yeah, I've gotta watch this guy more often.
Comments:
Hail
Friday - April 24th 2020 1:52PM MST
PS --
RE: MBlanc46, it was signed, and the final version restricted NO foreign workers at all.
The final version apparently amounts to an additional slight delay in processing time of a certain small percentage (
RE: MBlanc46, it was signed, and the final version restricted NO foreign workers at all.
The final version apparently amounts to an additional slight delay in processing time of a certain small percentage (
MBlanc46
Friday - April 24th 2020 11:27AM MST
PS Did this executive order ever get executed? I haven’t been paying attention. (Life is easier that way.) As our genial host suggests, President Trump sometimes as the right idea, but he’s woeful at execution.
Hail
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 4:42PM MST
PS -- It's funny how quickly the "corona immigration ban" fell apart. It was far short even of 24 hours. People were celebrating in the Tweet+[12 hours] period, but no longer by Tweet+[18 hours]. I think. It all, predictably, turned out to be a kind of hoax.
Hail
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 4:40PM MST
PS -- When I originally did the transcribing I pasted below, I looked around and found no transcript available. Fox News has sometimes put up transcripts of the monologues in the past, but didn't this time. They uploaded a set of "closed captions" (not the auto-generated one) onto the Youtube video are also full of errors, either getting words wrong or omitting important parts, and it is almost unreadable because it is made for TV and not for long-form text.
Moderator
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 2:31PM MST
PS: Yep, Federalist, it's amazing to me he's till on TV (well, youtube for me).
Moderator
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 2:29PM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, firstly here, yeah, there's code to strip out characters that may be harmful if used by the wrong people, and yes, this could all be done better, but I got the original from somewhere else, and it's just not time right now for a badly needed revamping of it. I'm just glad you haven't completely lost a big comment yet ... or I hope!
I can read transcripts in about 1/4 the time of listening. Mr. John Derbyshire's podcasts ("Radio Derb") are a great example. It might be a little more fun listening if you know him, but, I've never listened for 45 minutes vs. reading for 8-10 min.
I don't know which Peak Stupidity readers would rather do, but I will say that VDare almost always has complete, and as far as I have seen, error-free transcripts of video clips they embed.
I thank you for putting the transcript in. I'll try to remember to link to transcripts when I can find them easily, but only if they are not too long. Otherwise, I'll pick and choose, as you have, Mr. Hail.
I can read transcripts in about 1/4 the time of listening. Mr. John Derbyshire's podcasts ("Radio Derb") are a great example. It might be a little more fun listening if you know him, but, I've never listened for 45 minutes vs. reading for 8-10 min.
I don't know which Peak Stupidity readers would rather do, but I will say that VDare almost always has complete, and as far as I have seen, error-free transcripts of video clips they embed.
I thank you for putting the transcript in. I'll try to remember to link to transcripts when I can find them easily, but only if they are not too long. Otherwise, I'll pick and choose, as you have, Mr. Hail.
Federalist
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 2:07PM MST
PS-
Tucker at about 3:12:
"In fact, anyone whose livelihood depends upon SELLING OUT THE COUNTRY is apt to be very threatened by this."
Selling out the country. Tucker Carlson gets it.
Tucker at about 3:12:
"In fact, anyone whose livelihood depends upon SELLING OUT THE COUNTRY is apt to be very threatened by this."
Selling out the country. Tucker Carlson gets it.
Hail
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 1:36PM MST
PS --
PS --
It is a great monologue, with Tucker back in his usual style after weeks of CoronaDelirium.
An earlier portion of the monologue has Tucker slamming “Pampered Americans who Oppose an Immigration Moratorium” [from 2:55], which is excellent.
Transcript by me; this is worth quoting and for reference:
_________________________
[Begin quote from Tucker Carlson]
And yet some people in this country still oppose the idea [of an immigration pause].
Who are these people, and why do they oppose it?
Well, people who have been pampered and enriched by waves of low-wage immigration. They’re against it. Politicians whose hopes for power rest on changing this country’s population oppose it, too. They’d rather see Americans unemployed. In fact, anyone whose livelihood depends upon selling out the country is apt to be very threatened by this.
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is squarely in that category. ...[She is] *appalled* by the notion of cutting immigration during the worst unemployment crisis of our lifetimes. As she just explained on MSNBC, that’s immoral.
*** [Video clip.] MSNBC’s ANDREA MITCHELL: “How do you feel about the president’s messaging on immigration?” ALBRIGHT: “Well, I’m stunned. And I really do think that the Statue of Liberty is weeping. It is un-American.” ***
[Carlson:] Got that? It’s "un-American" to act in the economic interests of Americans. That's Madeleine Albright's position.
But at least we'll say this for her. She seemed coherent as she said it:
Former presidential candidate Robert "Beto" O'Rourke, — who is technically unemployed himself, though still very rich — erupted in a primal scream when he heard the news. He tweeted this, quote: “Who the F– do you think is working on the farms and feedlots, and the packing houses and processing plants, at a time we are struggling to feed ourselves? Who is in the kitchen, who is picking, preparing, serving the food we eat and cleaning up afterwards?”
Honestly, those are all very good questions — if you are an 18th century French marquis.
As the country falls apart around him, “Beteaux’s” first and main concern is preserving America’s sacred caste system. The native-born working on *farms*? In *kitchens*? In *factories*? ‘Sacre bleu!,’ screeched “Beteaux.” It’s unnatural, unthinkable, it is *wrong*. We must have a compliant underclass. We *must*!
[End quote from Tucker Carlson]
____________________
[Comment from me:] Madeleine Albright thinks protecting Americans is Un-American.
Subtext: Immigrants are the Real Americans. Subtext: Native-born, multi-generational Americans are less-American and their interests don’t matter. Logical extension of these subtexts: Native-born Americans are morally inferior to foreigners/immigrants (The Real Americans).
As for the satirization of Beto (“Beteaux”) there, no one does it better than Tucker.
PS --
It is a great monologue, with Tucker back in his usual style after weeks of CoronaDelirium.
An earlier portion of the monologue has Tucker slamming “Pampered Americans who Oppose an Immigration Moratorium” [from 2:55], which is excellent.
Transcript by me; this is worth quoting and for reference:
_________________________
[Begin quote from Tucker Carlson]
And yet some people in this country still oppose the idea [of an immigration pause].
Who are these people, and why do they oppose it?
Well, people who have been pampered and enriched by waves of low-wage immigration. They’re against it. Politicians whose hopes for power rest on changing this country’s population oppose it, too. They’d rather see Americans unemployed. In fact, anyone whose livelihood depends upon selling out the country is apt to be very threatened by this.
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is squarely in that category. ...[She is] *appalled* by the notion of cutting immigration during the worst unemployment crisis of our lifetimes. As she just explained on MSNBC, that’s immoral.
*** [Video clip.] MSNBC’s ANDREA MITCHELL: “How do you feel about the president’s messaging on immigration?” ALBRIGHT: “Well, I’m stunned. And I really do think that the Statue of Liberty is weeping. It is un-American.” ***
[Carlson:] Got that? It’s "un-American" to act in the economic interests of Americans. That's Madeleine Albright's position.
But at least we'll say this for her. She seemed coherent as she said it:
Former presidential candidate Robert "Beto" O'Rourke, — who is technically unemployed himself, though still very rich — erupted in a primal scream when he heard the news. He tweeted this, quote: “Who the F– do you think is working on the farms and feedlots, and the packing houses and processing plants, at a time we are struggling to feed ourselves? Who is in the kitchen, who is picking, preparing, serving the food we eat and cleaning up afterwards?”
Honestly, those are all very good questions — if you are an 18th century French marquis.
As the country falls apart around him, “Beteaux’s” first and main concern is preserving America’s sacred caste system. The native-born working on *farms*? In *kitchens*? In *factories*? ‘Sacre bleu!,’ screeched “Beteaux.” It’s unnatural, unthinkable, it is *wrong*. We must have a compliant underclass. We *must*!
[End quote from Tucker Carlson]
____________________
[Comment from me:] Madeleine Albright thinks protecting Americans is Un-American.
Subtext: Immigrants are the Real Americans. Subtext: Native-born, multi-generational Americans are less-American and their interests don’t matter. Logical extension of these subtexts: Native-born Americans are morally inferior to foreigners/immigrants (The Real Americans).
As for the satirization of Beto (“Beteaux”) there, no one does it better than Tucker.
Hail
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 1:36PM MST
PS -- whoops, the comment system here didn't like my < and > tags and ate some of that. Delete the below and this one and I'll try again..
Hail
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 1:34PM MST
PS --
It is a great monologue, with Tucker back in his usual style after weeks of CoronaDelirium.
An earlier portion of the monologue has Tucker slamming “Pampered Americans who Oppose an Immigration Moratorium” [from 2:55], which is excellent.
Transcript by me; this is worth quoting and for reference:
_________________________
[Begin quote from Tucker Carlson]
And yet some people in this country still oppose the idea [of an immigration pause].
Who are these people, and why do they oppose it?
Well, people who have been pampered and enriched by waves of low-wage immigration. They’re against it. Politicians whose hopes for power rest on changing this country’s population oppose it, too. They’d rather see Americans unemployed. In fact, anyone whose livelihood depends upon selling out the country is apt to be very threatened by this.
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is squarely in that category. ...[She is] *appalled* by the notion of cutting immigration during the worst unemployment crisis of our lifetimes. As she just explained on MSNBC, that’s immoral.
>> [Video clip.] MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell: “How do you feel about the president’s messaging on immigration?” ALBRIGHT: “Well, I’m stunned. And I really do think that the Statue of Liberty is weeping. It is un-American.”
It is a great monologue, with Tucker back in his usual style after weeks of CoronaDelirium.
An earlier portion of the monologue has Tucker slamming “Pampered Americans who Oppose an Immigration Moratorium” [from 2:55], which is excellent.
Transcript by me; this is worth quoting and for reference:
_________________________
[Begin quote from Tucker Carlson]
And yet some people in this country still oppose the idea [of an immigration pause].
Who are these people, and why do they oppose it?
Well, people who have been pampered and enriched by waves of low-wage immigration. They’re against it. Politicians whose hopes for power rest on changing this country’s population oppose it, too. They’d rather see Americans unemployed. In fact, anyone whose livelihood depends upon selling out the country is apt to be very threatened by this.
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is squarely in that category. ...[She is] *appalled* by the notion of cutting immigration during the worst unemployment crisis of our lifetimes. As she just explained on MSNBC, that’s immoral.
>> [Video clip.] MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell: “How do you feel about the president’s messaging on immigration?” ALBRIGHT: “Well, I’m stunned. And I really do think that the Statue of Liberty is weeping. It is un-American.”
Hail
Thursday - April 23rd 2020 1:31PM MST
PS --
Since this is a text medium, I'd like to re-post the transcription of this important monologue:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/but-think-of-the-economy/#comment-3853464
_________________________________
Partial transcript of the opening monologue [from 5:15], broadcast 8pm EDT, April 21; transcripted by me (originally posted at Steve Sailer blog [see above]):
[begin quote from Tucker Carlson]
The new moratorium on immigration will last for sixty days, at which point it could be extended or it may not be extended.
The ban will apply only to individuals seeking permanent permanent residency in this country. In other words, people who like the United States enough to stay permanently, and would like green cards to be able to do it legally. But the ban will not apply to those entering the United States on a “temporary basis,” and that means this will not affect guest workers.
That’s an awful lot of exceptions.
Every year, our government hands out 80,000 non-agricultural guest worker visas, as well as 85,000 H1b visas, and hundreds of thousands of ag-worker visas.
The purpose of this tidal wave of immigration has nothing to do with what advocates of immigration claim immigration is for. These visas do not improve American society in any way. We have no moral obligation to give them. There is no mention of guest workers on the Statue of Liberty.
There’s only one point in handing out hundreds of thousands of these visas to foreign nationals, and it’s to placate Big Business. Employers, always and everywhere, want to hire workers for less. In this case, for less than Americans make. And these visas let them do it.
[...]
You may have just lost your job, but you’ll be happy to know that Accenture can still import IT workers from Asia, who will work for less than you once made.
So if the point of this executive order was to protect American jobs — maybe there was another point, but if it was to protect American jobs — it failed.
So how did this happen, exactly? Well, we are not sure, though we do plan to find out...
[End quote from Tucker Carlson]
[Comment from me:] That was the main part of interest on the immigration-suspension plan. The rest is set-up and commentary and Tucker-style satirization of the Left.
Since this is a text medium, I'd like to re-post the transcription of this important monologue:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/but-think-of-the-economy/#comment-3853464
_________________________________
Partial transcript of the opening monologue [from 5:15], broadcast 8pm EDT, April 21; transcripted by me (originally posted at Steve Sailer blog [see above]):
[begin quote from Tucker Carlson]
The new moratorium on immigration will last for sixty days, at which point it could be extended or it may not be extended.
The ban will apply only to individuals seeking permanent permanent residency in this country. In other words, people who like the United States enough to stay permanently, and would like green cards to be able to do it legally. But the ban will not apply to those entering the United States on a “temporary basis,” and that means this will not affect guest workers.
That’s an awful lot of exceptions.
Every year, our government hands out 80,000 non-agricultural guest worker visas, as well as 85,000 H1b visas, and hundreds of thousands of ag-worker visas.
The purpose of this tidal wave of immigration has nothing to do with what advocates of immigration claim immigration is for. These visas do not improve American society in any way. We have no moral obligation to give them. There is no mention of guest workers on the Statue of Liberty.
There’s only one point in handing out hundreds of thousands of these visas to foreign nationals, and it’s to placate Big Business. Employers, always and everywhere, want to hire workers for less. In this case, for less than Americans make. And these visas let them do it.
[...]
You may have just lost your job, but you’ll be happy to know that Accenture can still import IT workers from Asia, who will work for less than you once made.
So if the point of this executive order was to protect American jobs — maybe there was another point, but if it was to protect American jobs — it failed.
So how did this happen, exactly? Well, we are not sure, though we do plan to find out...
[End quote from Tucker Carlson]
[Comment from me:] That was the main part of interest on the immigration-suspension plan. The rest is set-up and commentary and Tucker-style satirization of the Left.
I realized I made the mistake of using the "less than" symbol again, and it cut off the rest of that last comment. It should say, "less than 10% of current green-card applicants," whose applications are already delayed since mid-March, and will amount to a slight extension of a delay for these 5-10% of people.
(This is exactly the kind of thing Candidate Trump would have railed against, mocked, slammed, and agitated against daily.)