Collective Soul - Heaven's Already Here


Posted On: Saturday - May 28th 2022 8:48PM MST
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I mentioned the Atlanta area* band Collective Soul in the comments yesterday. I've liked their sound since I first heard the band in the early 1990s, but this was already past the point of my being a fan of music bands in the sense of knowing the members, or even remembering the names of the songs. I bought 3 CDs from them around 2000, and almost all the cuts were good.

Peak Stupidity has featured this band 3 times before, with December, Smashing Young Man, , and Shine. This song was written 30 year ago, for the big break album for this band, Hints, Allegations, and things Left Unsaid. I can barely remember that unique album name from the time.

Shine was the hit from this album, but Heaven's Already Here is a quick nice introduction to the band.



Collective Soul:

Ed Roland – lead vocals, guitar.
Dean Roland – rhythm guitar.
Ross Childress – lead guitar, backing vocals.
Will Turpin – bass, backing vocals.
Shane Evans – drums.

I never got to that videographer criticism post and an addendum about inflation. Peak Stupidity will have those posts and much much more next week. Thank you all for reading and writing! Happy Sunday.


* The band is from Stockbridge, a now-suburb of Atlanta about 20 miles south, in Henry Country. Holy White Flight! The place was 72% white/ 21% black as recently as 2000, while now the place is 13% white / 65% black! Which way have the White people been fleeing now?

Comments:
Dieter Kief
Thursday - June 2nd 2022 2:43AM MST
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Gypsies around here love the brown ones. They drive them in shimmering golden perl-effect brown. In Rumania too. But now they have mostly newer models.
You see the leftover w-126 rarely here in light grey like yours - btw, there is even a colour named Lichtgrau in German,what complicates matters here a bit. Becauce light has a double meaning in English of lightweight and lightbulb, which is doesn't quite have in German.
It does have a bitof it, because to call slomthing licht can mean to call it - light (in the sense of lightweight...).

(For me this stuff is interesting, and I love the texts of eminent German essayist and lyricist and mathematician too (He wrote the kids book The Number Devil - yes translated into English) Hans Magnus Enzensberger.
One of his favored words is the very old (and now almost completely out of use) word ash-grey, which is used in a german idiom, amongst other uses, of course. This idiom goes: To do something in the Aschgraue, maening - not now, and not next week, or year or so...).
Plus one of the more interesting German painters, Gerhard Richter, did a lot of grey paintings (he had a grey phase for ca. two years) - and he reflected on grey quite a bit too. Grey is not least the colour of protestant Churches -and of quite some Catholic monasteries.But the (quite protestant/Preussian...) GDR was also very grey (Richter was born and raised there).

Adam Smith
Wednesday - June 1st 2022 10:39PM MST
PS: Good evening, everyone,
I hope you're all doing well!

Mr. Moderator, yeah, that's the same guy...

Here's his old blog. (It looks like he deleted his blog but kept the URL.)
http://mvdstandard.net/

Here's a random snapshot from archive.org
https://web.archive.org/web/20200706125958/http://mvdstandard.net/

Here's his instagram...
https://www.picuki.com/profile/aaroninmvd

I also found this...
http://aaronrogier.net/

Hey Dieter, I read your comment from May 28th a couple days back.
I've been meaning to reply, and I might as well do so here...

Those little Opel custom wagons look pretty nice. I've never seen an Opel in real life, so I really don't know anything about them. (except that they used to be owned by GM and now they're owned by Stellantis) I agree, good seats are important. Not sure what kind of seats I'm going to put in the old benz. (I've though about putting some sort of generic bucket seats or something if I can get them to bolt in as most used seats are kinda beat and kinda pricey.) I've even thought about using the engine for some other sort of project, but I don't know what that would be. Maybe a little pickup or generator or something.

Lol... No, she's not brown. When new she looked like this...
https://i.ibb.co/vXCH9y2/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel.jpg

Cheers!

Dieter Kief
Wednesday - June 1st 2022 12:22PM MST
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In Siwtzerland,you could call yourself a Swiss Mr, Hail, for good resons.
But not an Eidgenosse, heheh - your family roots would not be looked zpon as long or deep - enough to qualify for that...
In Konstanz, the saying goes that all folks who arrived in town past the 1500eds don't really count.

Btw.: Zürich was reingned in the 1810s by 80 families who controlled each and every important institution. - All of them real Eidgenossen (sworn in cormades from the middle ages!).
Moderator
Wednesday - June 1st 2022 10:05AM MST
PS: Mr. Ganderson, about the Canadians and the baseball players. First off, kudos to those players for standing their ground. I'm amazed that some woke management of the team didn't try to force them in some way to get jabbed, but maybe it went like "Those guys are good! Don't piss them off!"

I cannot go to Canada either. It's not like I need to see a moose or drink a Moosehead anytime soon, anyway, but for work I would occasionally go, a lot more in the past. I don't need to. I was on decent terms with the customs guys and ladies though the immigration people had me as a case of mistaken ID for a while and would hold me up.

However, long in the past, I was coming into that country and had to call customs on the phone. After giving our birthdates, etc, the lady goes: "Do you have any tobacco?" "No." "Do you have any alcohol?" "No." "Do you have any guns?" "Yeah, I got a LOT of guns... but I won't bring them to Canada." Holy crap, that conversation took a turn for the worse! I finally had to tell her that she was using up my roaming minutes. (True, this was long ago.) It didn't get any easier once we arrived either.
Moderator
Wednesday - June 1st 2022 9:54AM MST
PS: Oops, for those who might not have understood what that last part was about, I was referring to a blog - now youtube channel - by a guy who is an ex-pat in Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay. What a tempting idea, especially for a single guy. The grass is always greener, though ...
Moderator
Wednesday - June 1st 2022 9:52AM MST
PS: I missed your latest report until now, Mr. Ganderson. (I always appreciate them.) You reminded me that I meant to write back to Mr. Blanc on that Dead video. Yes the comments said that this was around the time of that takeover of buildings at Columbia University. What a time to have been around!

Mr. Smith, if you are reading, I cannot find the guy Aaron's blog at all either now. However he has a youtube channel. That might be even more informative. (His blog posts were very short, with just tidbits of news.)

It's gotta be the same guy, but I haven't watched a video yet:

https://www.youtube.com/c/AaronInMVD
Hail
Wednesday - June 1st 2022 7:54AM MST
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Mr. Anderson,

I am an American with four US-born grandparents. Most family lines drawn from Scandinavia and Germany arriving in the late 1800s.
Moderator
Tuesday - May 31st 2022 6:35AM MST
PS: As with the comments under the previous post, this is great discussion (on the real meaning of "excess deaths", deaths WITH Covid vs. deaths actually FROM Covid, the aging of the population and all effects of the up-till-now unheard of LOCKDOWNS, etc).

I will put up another post on this whole ""excess death" idea, seeing as that's the way the Covid panickers have been, if not justifying their stupidity over the last 2 years, but at least trying to tell us they were right to panic.

As I'll suggest for the previous post, it would be fine with me if you all paste in your pertinent comments from this thread. (It's not for me to do, I don't think, and I don't want to put them in the post, as I'm trying to make posts a little shorter, if possible.)
Ganderson
Tuesday - May 31st 2022 6:32AM MST
PS.
Thanks, Mr. Hail. You are an island of good sense in the sea of madness in which we live.

A question for you: are you an American? I don’t ask to be snarky, just curious. No sweat if you’d rather not answer.

Reports from the Panic Zone (TM):

Monkey Pox is all over my local papers- get ready. Lance Link and Ed Simian could not be reached for comment. Magilla Gorilla also declined to respond…
No one has heard from Cheetah… OK I’ll stop now..

Big controversy in Minnesota Twinsville- the Twins have to leave a number of players home on their road trip to Toronto because of Canada’s insane Covid restrictions; said players are unvaccinated. The MN sporting press has predictably gone nuts, sportswriters being the liberals that they are: MN sportswriters make ordinary journalists and sportswriters look like writers for the Volkischer Beobachter; of course, the most prominent positive Twinkie, Carlos Correa, HAS been vaccinated.
For me one of the most amazing things about the whole vax deal, is that if one were unencumbered by “the narrative” the conclusion, the simplest, most Ockham’s Razor-y explanation, is that the vaxes don’t work. Instead the PTB say- “well, you can still get the Coof, but it’s less serious”. How about “this was no big deal to begin with” ? Even normally non panicking people like Drew Pinsky take that line. Seems silly to me.

My experience with getting sick last week* (all better now, thank you very much) was eye opening- my neighbors largely expected me to keel over at any moment. Now everybody in my town is very smart- Mrs Ganderson and I are the dumbest people on our block- the only ones without terminal degrees, but I suspect there’s a direct correlation between high IQ and susceptibility to panic. Still lots of masking, even outside, around here. Walked by the local prestigious SPLAC’s outdoor graduation yesterday- signs all over telling people to mask up, and roughly 2/3 of the crowd was in compliance. Said college had gone absolutely insane during the panic completely remote for a year- no one allowed on campus if you didn’t already live there, massive amounts of testing, sports cancelled for almost a year. The two doctors they consulted to craft this policy were two alums- Eziekiel Emmanuel and David Kessler- Clinton/ Obama era hacks.”

And on another topic: Memorial Day was always a bit somber growing up- my Anderson grandparents had four boys- three, including my dad were in the service during WW II. My uncle George didn’t come back, killed by a Japanese sniper in the Philippines. He and my dad were close…

Here’s a fun version of Althea from 5/16/80 to cheer everybody up: https://youtu.be/J7HnyEY6ifg

* I assume I had the CoronaChan- I was sick, and did test positive but my sickness was very short lived, and I never lost my sense of taste and smell.
Dieter Kief
Monday - May 30th 2022 12:09PM MST
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Thanks Mr. Hail. i agree Such are the numbers.
To add one more factor: Growing numbers of homeless people means a growing number of people closer to death than they could have been otherwise, I think.

And I'd add Steve Sailer's well documented findings on the growing number of traffic deaths after George Floyd.

To give just one example about the differences in Europe:

Delayed medical treatment because of hospital stress caused by Covid in Sweden: Zero.

GB: The numbers given vary widely - but the lowest is half a million cases+ (the highest reasonable number I heard Dr. John Campbell mention is: around 5 million!)
Hail
Monday - May 30th 2022 11:23AM MST
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US deaths among ages 18-to-39, 2020 and 2021

A higher number of deaths during a crisis (real or artificial and top-down promoted) may have less to do with the crisis itself than with the fragility of the society affected.

The long-mismanaged USA has serious problems, with its hostile, imperial-like elite. I think this leads to the basic, bird's-eye-view answer to the question.

(I write on the holiday Memorial Day between appointments. One of the most beloved of holidays, it marks the start of summer in US culture and the typical activity people supposedly do is outdoor-barbeques. The holiday is ostensibly about commemorating US veterans especially those who died, but I get the feeling far fewer core-Americans care about this patriotic appeal than ever, a deeply bad signal for regime stability. This was already basically true in the late 2010s, and was the backdrop on which the Corona-Panic descended like an evil beast on the politically-morally weakened populace in early 2020.)

________

Non-Covid unexplained deaths in 2020 and 2021:

Here are the final totals for US deaths among 18-to-39 year olds (born 1980s and 1990s) for 2020 and 2021:

2018: 125,058 deaths
2019: 125,976 deaths
2020: 152,839 deaths
2021: 172,020 deaths

Of these, deaths "involving Covid-19" (that's the CDC term) were:

2020: 5,782
2021: 15,460
TOTAL: 21,242 (two-year)

The way "Covid" death coding works, we can cut this 21,241 either in half, or in three or four or even as high as say ten to remove "deaths with the virus" or with major other contributing factors (this based on other findings), depending on how much of the gray area we want to excise from the data. Cut in half only to be conservative. (Don't cut at all if you don't want, but know you are working with inflated data.)

The actual number of "Covid deaths" in 18-to-39-year-olds is therefore below 10,000 in the USA over two full years, and could be under 5,000.

The relevant population is 80,000,000 to 85,000,000 strong, of which some high percent is obese. This yields a per-100,000-per-annum death rate in the lower single digits (likely Total deaths, all-cause, 2018-19: 251,034
-> Total deaths, all-cause, 2020-21: 324,859
-> Difference: 73,825 deaths

...of which 2,000 to 20,000 are "Covid" depending on how liberal or strict you want to be.
- Left to explain: circa 65,000 deaths.

Check this data yourself at:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

So.....

where did these non-Covid circa 65,000 extra deaths come from?

Given that the Corona-Panic regime in firm place by March 2020 (superseding and usurping from the orange-buffoon frontman), you can be surethat anyone who died while "positive" was coded a "death involving Covid-19."

Where did these extra deaths come from? Don't get bogged down in details, these are the Panic-induced deaths. Included are all the deaths of despair, broadly covering all who died because of events and conditions unleashed by the Panic. Had this been 1990, or 2000, or even 2010, and had no one had paid attention to a "new!!" flu virus, and had there been no Corona-Panic at all, these 65,000 Under-40s would statistically still be living.

The same phenomenon, though, has no reason to end abruptly at age 39, does it? It must have affected all ages. We can tease out THAT it happened with this 18-to-39 data because so far fewer die anyway.

A conclusion is that the degree to which a population was affected had nothing to do with the lethality of one flu virus, but the degree of social stability and cultural resilience. All roads lead back to Corona as political question. The little book I reviewed about a month ago has a long section on Sweden and the authors' views on why Sweden did so well to resist the international Panic coalition, and attributed it to an innate social strength which may surprise the many right-wing Sweden-bashers out there. (Sweden does have problems, but they are a layer on top of a still-strong social core, by this theory.)

Vaccines: The higher-number of mystery-deaths in 2021 than 2020, despite Panic conditions and lockdowns and all less in place, suggests to me a lot vaccine-caused deaths in there. They would start in this age-group in about mid-2021 and may be continuing today in mid-20222.

This data, I think, gives credence to a covid-vaccine-induced death total USA-wide (all ages) in the tens of thousands by Dec 31, 2021.

The several thousand extra homicides are also in there. The full picture is multi-caused and should not be weighed down by focus on any one thing alone.
Hail
Monday - May 30th 2022 11:12AM MST
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In a data-set so politicized as "Covid," and with so many potential factors at work affecting the data overseen by ideological-guardians enforcing a party-line, we have to be careful and prudent, and Dr Rancourt's work is usually good on this.

Little to none of the mainstream discourse wanted to touch prudent or nuanced approaches in 2020 and 2021. All wanted to blare nonstop Panic-propaganda at people. Their infamous rolling death counts. We remember.

There were a lot of Lockdown-/Panic-induced deaths, either of first-order or second-order; and now, in Year Three and beyond, probably going into third-order deaths caused by the decision to embrace the Panic, caused by the fateful the coup(s) d'etat by Corona-Panic-backers and the Covid regimes they imposed.

Early on, many people including me were trying to find signals of first-order Panic-induced deaths---those deaths caused by the Corona-Panic phenomenon, the most obvious example being non-treated heart-attacks by people terrified by Panic-pushing media to seek treatment. There was indication already there were more of those than genuine "Covid"-caused deaths, and it being just no-contest in quality-life-years-lost terms.

Panic-induced lost-life-years clearly exceed Wuhan-Coronavirus-induced lost life-years in the US population. The grim battles (or non-battles) over body-counting and death-coding often ignore(d) this bigger and far-less-sexy problem, the depressing grimness of deaths-of-despair or homicides and so on leading back to the victory by the Panic people in spring 2020 and their refusal to admit their mega-error. The full accounting requires a finesse that the politicized question will not allow.
Dieter Kief
Monday - May 30th 2022 12:37AM MST
PS: Mod., two additional thoughts about Denis Rancourt's theses.

1) a) The big difference in excess deaths in different regions of the US and b) between Europe and the US seems to be real. And Denis Rancourt and his team seem to have gotten a hold on these otherwise unexplained big differences. What Denis Rancourt misses is the fact, that the vaccination can't be as deadly as many say it is - and his team seems to be about to say too in their next paper.
 
So.: The most important part of this Rancourt video linked below in my second comment are the minutes 14 to 50.

2) My take on the deadly-vaccines-thesis: There are no excess-death-cases in highly vaccinated Scandinavia in 2020 and 2021 - to the contrary: 2020 and 2021 show less deaths than would have to be expected - a real world .l.a.c.k. of deaths, so to speak. 
Social statistician and science blogger Orwell2024 remarked the same thing recently in a comment under his article about the differences between New Zealand and Sweden (Excess Death Match-Race***). This article is interesting too.
Btw. - Orwell 2024 - recommended and retweeted by Michael Levitt about a year ago, - got four comments for his article this far. One pretty far out about death in a Schubert song (Grave Digger's Homesickness, Schubert Works No. D842 /1825 / Lyrics by Craigher)...
And in one of those three other comments I found the hint to Denis Rancourt... the world of decent reasoning is impressively small at times (ok, this as a side note).
Here is orwell2024's substack account and - his above mentioned latest article too - - -

Orwell2024’s Newsletter | Substack
Moderator
Sunday - May 29th 2022 3:58PM MST
PS: You're welcome, Dieter. I'm glad you like this band. I am in the middle of your video. There's a basic premise that Mr. Rancourt never explained that well, to my liking anyway, about how this "epidemic" of deaths due to the PanicFest (hospital non-admissions, etc) is different from the epidemic itself. (I know, it hit all places the same, but I just want's convinced yet.)

I'm in the middle of it anyway. I do thing that the excess death number is not some simple "there's your COVID-19, right there!" deal that many people think. There was a lot of bad stuff, healthwise, going on it '20 and '21. It's still not all over.
Dieter Kief
Sunday - May 29th 2022 2:39AM MST
PS

Scientific Covid-Heavens Is Already Here! - Or so it just seems? - - -

https://rumble.com/v11b31c-the-denis-rancourt-report.html?mref=mtyhn&mc=6a48v

Canadian Researcher Denis Rancourt is the Black Swan of Covid-Science - His Findings: Poverty, Obesity, Stress, Heat and Lack of Antibiotics Combined Caused the Covid Excess-Deaths (not only in the US) - from 15 min. in to 25 min. - His Papers Are Linked Below the Video
Dieter Kief
Saturday - May 28th 2022 11:26PM MST
PS
"Nice singin' boys! - This is the Spyboys-Choir!"
Stage anouncement by Emmylou Harris, which mixes with - this is the Early Sunday Mornin' here for me - Allman Brothers' reminiscences and - a certain deep-throated Rod Stewart touch, if I could - ever so pure - - put it this way!
Thx Mod.!
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