Donald Trump and Lyin' Press Distractions: Just don't play!


Posted On: Thursday - November 17th 2022 8:14PM MST
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  TV, aka Gov't Media  Trump  Media Stupidity  ctrl-left

South Carolina's Miss Lindsey with the Steele dossier.



I'm going to put off a couple of other posts that I've got in mind off for a couple of days for this and one more - both are about election/Presidential politics and go back a ways. Here, I refer to an argument/discussion I had with one of the good commenters on the iSteve blog in this Trump open thread. I guess Trump was slated to give a speech somewhere, so I fixed Mr. Sailer's quick announcement thusly:
Is Trump going to give a speech 2-hour-long rambling series of sound bites, platitudes, bragging, name-calling, and bullshitting, which is still a lot of fun to go to?

I don’t know. Let me know when Ron DeSantis is coming to my area.
Yes, they really are fun to go to. I went to a rally during the '16 general election campaign. Really, I do have some hope for Ron DeSantis. Who knows if it's false hope?

The argument started with my statement here:
I admit that one thing that gave me confidence about voting for Trump in ’16 was that being filthy rich, he wouldn’t be subject to bribery, and being a playboy type, he wouldn’t be subject to blackmail. Unfortunately Donald Trump is subject to other stuff, like insults, distractions, and twitter.

I like your idea of Trump being the front man, while DeSantis does the governing. Unfortunately Trump’s ego would never let that work. He’d be tweeting out to the country that the guy right next to him on the stage, Sancto-Ron, is an idiot.
It's the "distractions" part that started the argument. This hearkens back to something from over 4 years back, the Summer of '18, as I was about shocked to see that the damn Russia Collusion business was STILL on TV! (It was for another year or more after that even.) The post I wrote about that is: Nothing but distractions.

In case readers don't want to go to that post, let me sum it up in a paragraph. Yeah, I didn't have TV, so I didn't have those talking heads pulling me into this story. Yes, there is this internet thingy, but following that particular story is something I wasn't interested in. "Russian Collusion!" being important in Trump's '16 win was and is ridiculous on its face. I remember a post or two from Steve Sailer that talked about the $100,000 worth of Russian money for Facebook ads. Ha! "One hundred thousand dollars!", Putin exclaimed, along with "Owww!", as he bit his pinky finger a little too forcefully. (Steve Sailer was of the same opinion.)

I knew it was a crock of shit thrown out there by people who wanted to bring Trump down because they just plain HATE the man, or (giving them probably too much credit here) they had a big plan to distract him. I knew this from the beginning, so I saw no reason to look into it this any more. "Wait, but the story is still real. It's not going to go away just because YOU don't follow it, or even if 100 million Americans decide not to." is a reply to that. This goes for a number of the other major distractions during those 4 years that, well, I don't know so many details about, because they are big distractions!

Let me answer that hypothetical reply though. I don't know what the Lyin' Press would have done if all of us patriotic Americans had tuned out. There'd still be 100 million treating these stories as big news. What Donald Trump should have done is the important thing. He let these stories take so much of his time and energy. Now, Donald Trump is a high energy guy, I gotta say. He still took some decent steps on immigration - most of them under the radar (see President Donald Trump: the Bad, **the Good**, and the Ugly - taken from VDare info) that were quickly overturned by the Bai Dien Administration. Still, his spending 4 years replying to this allegation and defending himself from this other left no time for strategizing on longer-term solid legislative proposals, getting the bureaucracy, at least at the high levels, staffed with people on our side, and rallying the dozens of millions of good Americans who could help to help put the pressure on the other side.

Whether planned or not, these stories went on and on for the whole term, preventing President Turmp from getting a lot more done. "But, but, how could Trump have ignored this stuff? They brought up this BS, and they brought up that BS, and they impeached him twice..." [Was it twice only? I don't know.] "This was serious business." Oh, yeah, it was serious? Well we know most of it wasn't without getting sucked into details, but even if it were - what does the ctrl-left get away with? Hell, Bai Dien's son has got to have the man OWNED by China, and then there's the whole family operation in the Ukraine. Understand, people, that at this point the Lyin' Press is an arm of the Regime, plain and simple. They won't cover the scandals and corruption of the ctrl-left, but they'll make 'em up if they have to for the alt-right (OK, Conservatives in general).

Most of the American people, and the Trump administration, let themselves get sucked into these stories. By defending against this charge here and countering with that charge there, they let their time and attention get wasted. How should President Trump have handled all this? Glad you asked:

"Mr. President, the public wants to know about these most recent charges about the Russian Collusion, that your administration ..."

"I'm sorry, but all questions about this supposed Russian Collusion scandal and all the scandals period are being handled by my Chief Council, Mr. N.Y. Shyster. His email is on the "Contacts" page. Go to www.whitehouse ..."

"But Mr. President, we have a document that says ..."

"Never mind all that. Go call my lawyer. The American people elected me foremost to stop the immigration invasion. I'm here today to talk about our plans to get enough votes for the border barrier - we've talked to some engineers, some really good people, who tell us that the cost is as little as .."

"But the Steele dossier..."

"OK, Mr. Tapper*, it's Tapper right? Two "p"s. OK, yeah,... [strikes out a name on the "regular visiting press" roll sheet and scratches in "Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit - have Javanka call him"] just leave that badge at the door when you go out... we're done talkin'"


We are not going to win playing THEIR game. We may come up with all the evidence we need to prove indubitably that these are fake scandals and fake news, as we follow it all intently on TV. "See, this dossier is exactly what we needed. It proves that they got nothin'!!" So what? They don't care that they got nothin'. They will keep on distracting the President and the public, and nothing good will get done. The only way not to lose their game is to not play.


* Sorry, I really, really haven't followed any of this. I only came up with that one name for a Lyin' Press newsman - don't know if he attends press conferences or what.

Comments:
Moderator
Saturday - November 19th 2022 9:51AM MST
PS: Agreed, Winston Smith. Trump has been no champion against the Police State and growing Orwellian stuff. In fact, there was one thing he said at the one rally I went to in '16 that I booed at. I wish I could remember, but I do know it was some Police State domestic "anti-terrorism" thing that he said we needed more of or "a better deal" on ... This was inside, so I could be heard. I was encouraged to hear a few more boos too.

There seems to be a bigger push for the Central Bank Digital Currency than the UBI, at least right now.

I did see one place taking cash from someone at the Atlanta airport, so I was wrong that they all don't. (It might be only the one big corp that runs most of the places that won't take cash.) Next time, if I am there and hungry, I'll keep this one in mind. I'm really curious about it too now.
Smith Winston Smith
Saturday - November 19th 2022 9:13AM MST
PS The kayfabe kabuki of it all is so wildly entertaining!
It keeps one distracted from the 1929+ wipeout (intentional) that is coming.
Trump will stop UBI and CBDC (666)?
Read that he "attacked" Candace Owens and floated the death penalty for drug dealers at one of those Make Israel Great Again speeches.
I almost feel bad for people who think one man is going to stop the Great Reset Leap Forward global soviet control grid matrix.
Dieter Kief
Saturday - November 19th 2022 5:01AM MST
PS
Adam - a friend of mine collected a pebble stone alphabet - all characters of our alphabet as presented by pebble stones, found at the shore of the Baltic Sea in one afternoon.
I'd love to write with those...!
Will try to sned a picture.
Dieter Kief
Saturday - November 19th 2022 4:57AM MST
PS
Here's more about the fact that societies differ from machines (= immigration does make a - not least: troubling -difference)-


- "On this episode of Unsupervised Learning Razib Khan discusses the new book, The Culture Transplant: How Migrants Make the Economies They Move To a Lot Like the Ones They Left, with author Garett Jones. Jones is a professor of economics at George Mason University, and The Culture Transplant is the third book in what he likes of think of as his “Singapore trilogy,” beginning with Hive Mind: How Your Nation’s IQ Matters So Much More Than Your Own, and then moving to 10% Less Democracy: Why You Should Trust Elites a Little More and the Masses a Little Less. Jones explains how cultural assimilation and acculturation is actually not nearly as powerful as we might think and that ancestral folkways and norms persist for centuries, transforming nations like the US and Argentina over time as migration streams alter their demographic makeup. He argues that this is important because some nations are highly productive and innovative, and their cultural frameworks are necessary to foster their economic role in the global system. The Culture Transplant takes a contrarian position, going against the stance of mainstream economics, whereby every individual is an interchangeable “homo economicus.”

"If you’ve ever wondered how past and future migration may change the world, then Jones’ arguments on this podcast are worth listening to, and The Culture Transplant is a must-read."



Here's the podcast with Razib Khan and Garrett Jones: google:

Garett Jones: The Culture Transplant - How Migrants Make the Economies They Move To a Lot Like the Ones They Left (substack.com)
𝓐𝓭𝓪𝓶 𝓢𝓶𝓲𝓽𝓱
Friday - November 18th 2022 11:51PM MST
PS: 𝓖𝓻𝓮𝓮𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼, 𝓜𝓻. 𝓜𝓸𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓸𝓻,

𝓘𝓽 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭 𝓫𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓲𝓻 𝓽𝓸 𝓼𝓪𝔂 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓼𝓮 𝓪𝓻𝓮 𝓷𝓸𝓽 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪𝓻𝓭 𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓬𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓼. 𝓑𝓾𝓽 𝓘❜𝓶 𝓷𝓸𝓽 𝓼𝓾𝓻𝓮 𝓱𝓸𝔀 𝓶𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓹𝓮𝓸𝓹𝓵𝓮 𝓬𝓪𝓷 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓭 𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓶. 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝔂 𝓶𝓪𝔂 𝓵𝓸𝓸𝓴 𝓭𝓲𝓯𝓯𝓮𝓻𝓮𝓷𝓽 𝓸𝓷 𝓭𝓲𝓯𝓯𝓮𝓻𝓮𝓷𝓽 𝓬𝓸𝓶𝓹𝓾𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓼. 𝓞𝓻 𝓹𝓮𝓻𝓱𝓪𝓹𝓼 𝓷𝓸𝓽 𝔀𝓸𝓻𝓴 𝓪𝓽 𝓪𝓵𝓵(❓)𝓣𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓲𝓼 𝓱𝓸𝔀 𝓲𝓽 𝓵𝓸𝓸𝓴𝓼 𝓸𝓷 𝓶𝔂 𝓬𝓸𝓶𝓹𝓾𝓽𝓮𝓻...

https://i.ibb.co/zGm7RGr/Screenshot.png

(𝓗𝓪𝓭 𝓽𝓸 𝓹𝓾𝓽 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓴 𝓲𝓷 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓻𝓮𝓰𝓾𝓵𝓪𝓻 𝓯𝓸𝓷𝓽 𝓪𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝓯𝓸𝓷𝓽 𝔀𝓸𝓷❜𝓽 𝓵𝓮𝓽 𝓶𝓮 𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽 𝓬𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓴 𝓪𝓷𝓭 ❞𝓸𝓹𝓮𝓷 𝓵𝓲𝓷𝓴 𝓲𝓷 𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓽𝓪𝓫❞. 𝓢𝓪𝓶𝓮 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓟𝓢: 𝓘𝓯 𝓘 𝓭𝓸𝓷❜𝓽 𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝓪 𝓹𝓻𝓸𝓹𝓮𝓻 PS 𝓫𝓵𝓸𝓰𝔀𝓸𝓻𝓴𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓴𝓼 𝓲𝓽❜𝓼 𝓼𝓹𝓪𝓶 𝓸𝓻 𝓼𝓸𝓶𝓮𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰.)

𝓕𝓾𝓷 𝓢𝓽𝓾𝓯𝓯. 𝓗𝓸𝓹𝓮 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽 𝓭𝓪𝔂❗

Moderator
Friday - November 18th 2022 11:23PM MST
PS: Mr. 𝓢𝓶𝓲𝓽𝓱, I went to the database and I saw lots of special characters. They can't be all part of the ASCII set of 256.

That was sure different!
Moderator
Friday - November 18th 2022 11:13PM MST
PS: Thanks for bringing up the (almost 900 from a list I've seen) J6 Political Prisoners, Alarmist. No doubt, Jeff Sessions didn't play hardball.

To address you, Sam J, and this argument, I'll say again that I didn't follow those details at all (Sessions vs. Trump). I think Sessions is a straight up, honest man, but maybe someone that is not ready for these modern political times, at least in the DOJ. As a Senator, he was an anti-immigration-invasion stalwart.

What pissed me off the most about Trump is an incident of which I wrote about in "Jeff Sessions, Tommy Tuberville, Trump, The South, and worship of Football".

https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1547

Trump supported Session's opponent in the Alabama Senate GOP primary long after he fired Jeff Sessions. That was petty, juvenile, and just plain stupid if he really cared about immigration. (I think he did.)

I agree with Mr. Blanc. We still need Trumpism, but we don't need Trump.

Moderator
Friday - November 18th 2022 7:35PM MST
PS: Dieter, I have not read your New Yorker article on John Mearshimer yet. I'll read it. I don't see "impress" as a synonym for "distract" though, as far as the point of the Russian Collusion '16 election farce (hoax, whatever...) Maybe it's connected to the war, in that the ctrl-lest was using the continual disparagement of Trump as a way to get him to defend himself by joining the anti-Russia Neocons? I don't know if they are that smart.

To me, besides just adding to the whole stupidity of revamping hostility to Russia 30-something years after the Cold War has been over, the idea was, no matter whether Americans with common sense didn't believe any of this collusion story, the constant bombardment of the administration with questions and requests, and the focusing of American's minds on the talking heads going on about this for years was an important distraction. It kept Trump from getting more done.
𝓐𝓭𝓪𝓶 𝓢𝓶𝓲𝓽𝓱
Friday - November 18th 2022 7:26PM MST
PS: 𝓖𝓸𝓸𝓭 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓷𝓰, 𝓰𝓮𝓷𝓽𝓵𝓮𝓶𝓮𝓷,

𝓒𝓸𝓶𝓹𝓵𝓮𝓽𝓮𝓵𝔂 𝓸𝓯𝓯 𝓽𝓸𝓹𝓲𝓬, 𝓫𝓾𝓽 𝓘 𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓷𝓮𝓭 𝓱𝓸𝔀 𝓽𝓸 𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓷𝓰𝓮 𝓯𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓼 𝓲𝓷 𝓫𝓵𝓸𝓰𝔀𝓸𝓻𝓴𝓼❗

𝖨 𝖼𝖺𝗇 𝖽𝗈 𝗯𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝗍𝖾𝗑𝗍. 𝖮𝗋 𝒃𝒐𝒕𝒉.

¡spɹɐʍʞɔɐq puɐ uʍop ǝpᴉsdn ǝʇᴉɹʍ uǝʌǝ uɐɔ I

𝔸𝕟𝕪𝕨𝕒𝕪. 𝕁𝕦𝕤𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕠𝕦𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕀 𝕤𝕙𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕘𝕠𝕠𝕕 𝕟𝕖𝕨𝕤.

𝓘 𝓱𝓸𝓹𝓮 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻𝔂𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓱𝓪𝓼 𝓪 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓷𝓲𝓷𝓰❗

Sam J.
Friday - November 18th 2022 2:58PM MST
PS

I might add if you are saying Sessions was not corruptand would not violate the law for political reasons then you are right. He is an honest man.
Sam J.
Friday - November 18th 2022 2:57PM MST
PS

The Alarmist,"Trump had a DoJ, but he staffed it with a career politician who was afraid to sully its honour/reputation by making what some would consider to be political prosecutions..."

If you're talking about Sen. Sessions, your 100% wrong. He was THE reason that illegal immigrants were not given amnesty. He had a perfectly good job in the Senate which he gave up because he thought Trump was going to clean up the country and he didn’t. Trump undercut him and I believe from Session's actions someone threatened him and/or his family. A few weeks after he was sworn in his total demeanor changed.

That Sessions did not do as Trump asked was because the fool went on TV and said he fired people, which then led to special prosecutors. Sessions had nothing to do with it. Ann Coulter covered this. Trump of course never being wrong blamed it all on Sessions. Not true.

Sessions was never a part of the deep State nor corrupt and Trump screwed him.
Dieter Kief
Friday - November 18th 2022 1:16PM MST
PS
The Donald Trump / Russian Collusion story redivivus.

The latest emanation of this swamp of ideas goes like this: The New Yorker top-brain interviewer Isaak Chotiner talks to John Mearsheimer about Ukraine and Russia. Is Russia still as reluctant to conquer all of Ukraine, as Mearsheimer predicted it would be when they talked before in February? 
John  Mearsheimer says that not much has changed since then and that he still thinks Russia is not acting in an imperialsit ay in Ukraine, but rather in defense mode because they don't want NATO at ther Ukrainian doorstep - with a President Selensky who is a loose- cocaine-fuelled cannon, I'd add.
The interviewer goes into Russian Collusion mode and then asks John Mearsheimer about his visit to Hungary - where he did talk in extenso with Victor Orban. Victor Orban has tweeted out that he has met John Mearsheimer and that he does agree with his analysis of the Ukraine war and: That with a President Trump, there would have been no war in Ukraine.
So - The New Yorker's Isaac Chotimer wants to hear, what Mearsheimer has to say about all that, but John Mearsheimer answers he can't and will not talk about Victor Orban's ideas, because that would put him in a bad position in the eye of the public.-
- Clearly Donald Trump and the Russian Collusion story are in the way and John Mearsheimer, like a good marriage counselor, prefers to rather keep quiet about subjects that can't be resolved with the necessary distance, than - making "all the tired horses in the (US) sun" - even shyer/angrier and wilder.  

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/john-mearsheimer-on-putins-ambitions-after-nine-months-of-war
MBlanc46
Friday - November 18th 2022 8:26AM MST
PS Mr Trump is not a serious man, and he is incapable of doing serious things. Perhaps that should have been apparent in 2016; it is crystal clear now. It would have been better had he ridden off into the sunset after the 2020 election, but, not being a serious man, he couldn’t bring himself to do that. If the first time was tragedy, the second time will certainly be farce. A positive aspect of the whole sorry episode is that it will very likely lead to the imminent demise of the Republican Party, which is probably the greatest single obstacle to the creation of a real America First movement.
Dieter Kief
Friday - November 18th 2022 5:50AM MST
PS
The Russian Collusion Hoax was not spread in order to impress us, Mod.
It was scare-cropping on the mind-bogglin /soul-killing fields of existential threats/angst/panic (will there be a nuclear war?) amongst - the Herd.
(From the back of my mind: The Russia Colluison Hoax was a speakin' hoax in that those who set it up were indeed already on their way to go to war with Russia over Ukraine.
From even further back: There was a reasonable fear in those people wether or not they'd be able to move president Trump in this direction. And that that was a big one amongst the set of reasons they did cultivate against Trump**** - Trump was the red hot center of theier Russian Collusion, so to speak).

****This plays an important role in Jeffrey Sachs' relfections about the Ukraine conflict. Sachs said to Tulsi Gabbard on her podcast: There'd be but a handful of people in Washington making the Urkaine decisions (president Biden not being amongst them***).
**** Whitney Webb - talking to Glenn Beck, pointed out some reasons, why this might be so.
The Alarmist
Friday - November 18th 2022 4:18AM MST
PS

“separate lid” was supposed to be “solid”.
The Alarmist
Friday - November 18th 2022 4:17AM MST
PS

Trump had a DoJ, but he staffed it with a career politician who was afraid to sully its honour/reputation by making what some would consider to be political prosecutions, even though they would be on a separate lid legal basis. Can you say “Private email server with highly classified US DoS info” ?

Flash forward six years, and we have 700 average Joes and Janes sitting in the DC gulag for walking in or near the Capitol.

The problem with Repubes in general and Trump in specific is that they are all form and no substance.
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