Posted On: Wednesday - July 19th 2023 6:56PM MST
In Topics:   Elections '16 - '24  The Russians  Pundits  The Neocons
This guy is one of the 2nd-tier GOP '24 election candidates, per E.H. Hail here. After learning a bit more than I'd already known about his fake anti-invasion stance, Peak Stupidity dubbed him just Another dumb Trump hire.
The Tucker Carlson video interview of Mr. Pence below that you may want to watch confirms this, especially early on. How could Mike Pence, a guy who was very much aware, associated with, and nearby, the events of January 6th '21 spout the media "insurrection" "violence against the cops", BS narrative? This is something that makes me think he is either an idiot who actually believes the Lyin' Press over his own lying eyes, or a big liar himself. He's a scumbag either way. Personal anecdotes that I've read of him being a good neighbor are one thing, but as a politician, ostensibly on the side of Americans, no, he's scumbag.
But that part is not what the post is about. Mr. Anon, Peak Stupidity and Unz Review commenter, first showed us a small part of this video interview in comments on the latter site. It showed Pence making a seemingly egregious "screw Americans, I'm a Neocon" style statement that wonks would call "tone deaf". We'll put the start/end tags in to highlight just this part, but one can easily watch the whole 34 minutes here too.
I was about to write a post on this one part of Mike Pence stupidity, but Mr. Anon's subsequent analysis of it was pretty much what I was going to write.
Actually, I'll start just a little bit early, to highlight here the Neocon attitude - a real criticism of Bai Dien for not providing enough money and weapons for the war. Unbelievable!
After talking about the disaster areas that are American cities and showing his incredulity about Pence's concern about MOAR TANKS, Tucker asked Mike Pence, "Where's the concern for the United States in that?" Mike Pence: "That's not my concern."
Sure there's more to this, but at the end of my specified duration, well, I don't want to sound like an off-the-boat immigrant here, but, Mr. Pence, where is this Free World of which you speak?
Regarding Mike Pence's longer reply, here's Mr. Anon's comment in its entirety, the blockquote at the beginning being part of a comment by Res (a very astute commenter) who Mr. Anon is replying to:
The full quote is not nearly as bad (short version: “we can do both”) and is less than two minutes of video, but what was he thinking when he led with that? Adept backtracking or just a malapropism?I think the “We can do both.” was him recognizing that he had just made an awful blunder. Tucker recited a laundry list of all the ills that now beset American cities and asked Pence, in effect, “What about America.” And Pence replied “Not my concern.” Now, Pence might have been speaking in a strictly federalist sense; as the President he is not responsible for local matters. And of course he’d be right to think so. He isn’t, and he shouldn’t be. But while those problems might not be his responsibility, you would think, that as President, they would be his concern.
But even then, the “We can do both” is nonsense. We can’t do both. Pence is a boomer-con who is stuck in the 1980s, where it’s morning in America again, and the US is a “Shining City on a Hill”. Boomer-cons, and their doppelgangers on the other side of the aisle, the neo-liberal boomer-libs, still think of America as that late 20th century America they grew up in. They think that America is an inexhaustible source of money and good-will that can solve all the World’s problems. What the World needs is just a good strong dose of “Murica!”
But we can no longer “Pay any price, bear any burden” if indeed we ever could (fat lot of good that price paying and burden bearing did us in the 1960s, when Kennedy uttered those words). We’re done for. America is a dying empire. And there is only one thing that dying empires do. They die.>
Thank you very much, Mr. Anon. Those are my thoughts exactly. I'll add this: I wonder how much of a Federalist Pence is anyway, but he sure could have made that clearer. Either way, his adamancy regarding the Ukraine had me thinking it’s 1 of 2 things:
1) This guy is stupid as a post, as he really thinks Russia is our existential enemy, and, as it were the Cold War era, we must be the adults and not let the defense of the Free World get derailed by young idealists.
2) He’s not stupid, but he’s under serious pressure – “say what ever else you want, but support for the Ukraine is non-negotiable, if you want to get anywhere with our money..” (Well he wasn’t going anywhere anyway.)
That's the same question of extreme stupidity vs. lying that I had on Pence's take on J6. Sorry, I wouldn't vote for this guy for sewer inspector.
PS: Another reason I had for posting this video is that I have a post coming on America's cities with one personal experience to share.