Posted On: Friday - August 11th 2023 6:07PM MST
In Topics: Movies Race/Genetics Bible/Religion
A movie titled Sound of Freedom came out on or about the 4th of July this year. Our family being far from avid movie-goers, I had not heard of the movie but perhaps once in reference in the iSteve threads and then maybe a headline or two somewhere.
Our track record in support of Hollywood as a family had heretofore been Angry Birds* ~ 7 years ago and First Man** ~ 5 years back.
My wife dragged me to this one due to a) her hearing of the Woke left trying to squash the movie because of the overt Christianity in it and b) 2 (out of 3) tickets being free ones burning a hole in her purse - not as big a hole that a $10 bucket of popcorn couldn't fill. I'd completely forgotten to write anything about either the controversy or the movie itself. Then I came upon Mike Tre's review in the comments under a Steve Sailer post. This was very much along the lines of what I would have written too.
Let me introduce Mike Tre, paste in his review of Sound of Freedom, and then provide a few comments.
Unz Review commenter Mike Tre is a guy that TUR, Peak Stupidity, and the Hail to You blog had as an occasional commenter with the handle MikeAtMikeDotMike. Mike, with that older handle, was very much with us in our arguments against the Kung Flu PanicFest back 3 years ago (a tad more). IIRC, he even had anti-Panic comments deleted or not published by the usually free-speech stalwart Ron Unz. (Or was it Mr. Sailer too?), hence the handle change. Mike seems to be a solid Conservative and race realist.
Here's Mike Tre's review (Caviezel is the star of the movie.***):
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It’s interesting that Steve has yet to mention the movie Sound of Freedom, which is an important movie for not just the obvious ones, but for the reasons not explained.
The topic of SoF is legitimate. From a technical standpoint, the movie itself really isn’t that good. Caviezel is a weird guy, and that has worked to his advantage in past roles (JC, a homeless man, and Edmund Dantes) but for playing a straight like Tim Ballard, at times he comes across as creepy as the perps he is chasing. The movie tries too hard to pull on the viewer’s heartstrings, with Caviezel tearing up at every predictable opportunity. The climactic scene is clunky, forced, and wildly difficult to believe regardless of how loyal it is to the true events. It’s almost a rip off of the final act of Apocalypse Now.
IMO, the most significant underlying message of this movie is that it advocates the white replacement theory, as well as the “anti-racist” theory. The two children that Ballard, a US DHS agent (a fact that is completely omitted in his wikipedia bio), is attempting to rescue are Honduran. According to the movie, he quits his job at the DHS so he can continue searching for one of them in Columbia. Ballard abandons his family, which consists of his wife and SEVEN children, for several months while he searches for this girl.
So in my mind, the fact that a HOMELAND security agent is given tax dollars (he does eventually quit when those tax dollars dry up and receives funds from a foreign millionaire) to search for foreign children in foreign nations is an absurdity. Further, the fact that this man leaves his 7 biological children fatherless for however many months to rescue one Honduran child is, if not wildly reckless and misguided, downright evil. The movie goes through lengths to illustrate the dangers Ballard faced, so this is a man who was willing to make his wife a widow and leave his 7 children fatherless over the fate of a foreign child in a foreign country. That is literally insane. The absurdity is driven home when during the movie, Ballard receives a text from his wife saying “I feel like she is one of our children.” Is there a word for this type of suicidal self marginalizing? How does this man’s children feel about being set aside for some stranger? Ballard is a religious fanatic, and that fanaticism has translated into casting his own family aside in order to seek some twisted sense of justice and divine recognition. It’s pure narcissism.
The film makes sure to show that all but one of the pedophile johns who solicit these children are white men (The final boss is a Colombian rebel), because rich white men apparently solicit underage children in Central American slums, and a reference is made to how a large majority of Central American children are trafficked into the US to be used by the 1% (read: rich white men).
Caviezel then delivers a monologue at the end of the credits referencing Uncle Tom’s Cabin, and how the Civil War was fought to end slavery, and blah bl,blah blah blah. It’s basically a massive helping of white guilt followed by asking for donations by scanning the QR code on the screen so that someone else might see the movie “who can’t afford it”. So he really does take that pay it forward crap seriously. No mention of the Pakistani rape games in Rotherham, or any other place where young white women are exploited for sexual abuse throughout the world.
All in all I lost a lot of respect I once had for Caviezel, as this is a man who does not understand nor stand up for the freedom of his own kind.
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Here are some remarks, one quick one first that's the only one about the movie itself, rather than the story:
The emphasis of Motherland Security as The Good Guys doesn't sit well with me. It's the name, and it's the TSA, I guess. The organization has enveloped the old ICE, Customs and Immigration, all that, so, some actually appropriate US Gov't functions do lie within.
Another style of human trafficking, that done under orders of the Bai Dien administration****, is more of what Peak Stupidity cares about. The odious sex Trafficking is another story, one that I would like to get some more numbers on to put in in perspective. Along with Mike's point regarding the scenes with the White man sex pervert in the movie, Peak Stupidity did note a more realistic PIC poster - I've seen it many times now, not just in Kentucky - in our post Truth in Trafficking Triumph.
Regarding some perspective, I've never heard of any instance of this horrific crime from any source other than the government and big media. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but, of course, the Government/Lyin' Press finger points at the White man. Before watching Sound of Freedom, I was under the impression that the Super-Elite "PizzaGate", Epstein Island "touring" people were whom this movie is pointing a finger at. That was a partial draw for me, besides the rare push from my wife. After seeing it, that didn't seem like the case.
OTOH, I did not see that whole monologue by Mr. Ballard at the end. I recall some words on the screen about Uncle Tom's Cabin, which just drove home the fact that I really did need to head out to the lobby to take a piss very badly. The thoughts that I was going to miss preaching of the sort I was not really up for were something my bladder was perhaps in tune with. Brain-Bladder-Barrier-Breach, Bitchez!
Finally the key point Mike made about Ballard's leaving his big family in limbo to save (first 2, then) one Honduran child, no matter how terrible her situation, is a very good one. These thoughts were in my head as I watched. I could have written something similar but not better than this Mike Tre review. Thank you, Mike.
* Besides that the characters were semi-famous to small kids at the time, Angry Birds had come somewhat recommended by Steve Sailer - big movie-goer and critic he - due to its Camp of the Saints-like theme.
** This movie had the story of Neil Armstrong and the Apollo XI mission to the moon. Albeit with perhaps a few more non-White-male faces in Houston Mission Control than in reality in 1969, this was no Woke flick by any means.
*** Regular readers here will know that, though I like plenty of movies, especially older ones (less chance of PC/Wokeness), Peak Stupidity doesn't do Hollywood worship. I know the director is important, but I honestly don't care who makes what, acts in what, or is the Key Grip. It's just entertainment, they are just movies, and those jobs are just jobs. (Key Grip, well, I never have gone and looked that up. Don't care, see.)
**** More in the post This Human Trafficking is HUGE. We're gonna need a bigger
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[UPDATED 08/23:] Ooops, Mr. Caviezel was NOT the director - he was the star, playing Tim Ballard. One Alejandro Monteverde was the director.
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Comments:
Moderator
Thursday - September 28th 2023 5:45AM MST
PS: Hey, Mike. Heh, yeah, I could use a tool to inform me of new comments - something that would go (pretty easily) with my revamping of this old software.
Anyway, if you ever read this, thanks for the reply. I looked at this post today due to my writing a comment under iSteve. I thought about linking to this review, but I didn't know if it'd be OK with Ron Unz, if he ever got worried about my copy/pasting from comments there on occasion.
Thanks for the nice reply.
Anyway, if you ever read this, thanks for the reply. I looked at this post today due to my writing a comment under iSteve. I thought about linking to this review, but I didn't know if it'd be OK with Ron Unz, if he ever got worried about my copy/pasting from comments there on occasion.
Thanks for the nice reply.
Mike Tre
Thursday - August 24th 2023 10:38AM MST
PS Achmed - thanks for posting my review. I can now die happy as having something of mine preserved within a famous blogger's pages. :D
I had actually forgotten about it, until I was laid off from work today for the first time in I don't know how long so I was catching up on all of the blogs I've been neglecting and came upon it.
I also appreciate giving my TUR backstory. Yes after some of my direct disagreements with Ron Unz in early 2020 about the kovid scam he at first blocked my old Mike@mike handle and then restricted it to one comment per day and no actions. I'll admit that some of my words were typed in frustration and in my case, being the blue collar Irish goon that I am, led to me losing any pretense of amicable discourse. Sailer has long just deleted probably hundreds of my submissions and continues to, many of them replies to other commenters applying vulgarity much worse than anything I had often used. I take satisfaction in knowing that as aloof as he tries to pretend to be, I am getting under his thin skin.
Anyway, looking back at it it may come across as overly harsh. It was mostly just my disappointment at the time. Caviezel is a good actor and I know he means well, but he is still very much misguided. (His monologue at the end is delivered as himself, not as Tim Ballard)
I am very much in the same state of mind as you and the your commenters: I rarely see movies anymore. I saw this one specifically because if the entirety of mainstream media hates it, it must be worth seeing. And it was. Like I said its topic is a real one serious one.
The other thing is around here - the Chicagoland area - movie theaters have become a no go zone do to the presence of the negro teenager. There is no exaggeration when I say anymore than two of them together makes a movie unwatchable with their antics. I'd rather watch a movie with 100 starving rabid ferrets going apeshit over fake buttered popcorn and 12 dollar hotdogs. One of the factors in deciding to go see SoF in the theater was the minimal probability of negro children having an interest in seeing it. And thankfully I was correct about that.
Thanks again!
I had actually forgotten about it, until I was laid off from work today for the first time in I don't know how long so I was catching up on all of the blogs I've been neglecting and came upon it.
I also appreciate giving my TUR backstory. Yes after some of my direct disagreements with Ron Unz in early 2020 about the kovid scam he at first blocked my old Mike@mike handle and then restricted it to one comment per day and no actions. I'll admit that some of my words were typed in frustration and in my case, being the blue collar Irish goon that I am, led to me losing any pretense of amicable discourse. Sailer has long just deleted probably hundreds of my submissions and continues to, many of them replies to other commenters applying vulgarity much worse than anything I had often used. I take satisfaction in knowing that as aloof as he tries to pretend to be, I am getting under his thin skin.
Anyway, looking back at it it may come across as overly harsh. It was mostly just my disappointment at the time. Caviezel is a good actor and I know he means well, but he is still very much misguided. (His monologue at the end is delivered as himself, not as Tim Ballard)
I am very much in the same state of mind as you and the your commenters: I rarely see movies anymore. I saw this one specifically because if the entirety of mainstream media hates it, it must be worth seeing. And it was. Like I said its topic is a real one serious one.
The other thing is around here - the Chicagoland area - movie theaters have become a no go zone do to the presence of the negro teenager. There is no exaggeration when I say anymore than two of them together makes a movie unwatchable with their antics. I'd rather watch a movie with 100 starving rabid ferrets going apeshit over fake buttered popcorn and 12 dollar hotdogs. One of the factors in deciding to go see SoF in the theater was the minimal probability of negro children having an interest in seeing it. And thankfully I was correct about that.
Thanks again!
Moderator
Tuesday - August 15th 2023 4:44AM MST
PS: Thanks for the correction on Quentin Tarantino, Mr. Anon.
Mr. Anon
Monday - August 14th 2023 8:54PM MST
PS
@Moderator
"As for the director Tarantino, I got turned off by "From Dusk till Dawn"........."
I believe that "From Dusk till Dawn" was directed by Robert Rodriguez, who is kind of the Mexican Tarantino. Tarantino merely acted in it. I had heard that Tarantino got into directing because he wanted to be an actor (usually, that career trajectory goes the other way). Somebody must have taken him aside and pointed out to him that he's a lousy actor.
Rodriguez also directed the high-school sci-fi / comedy movie "The Faculty", which was actually pretty good.
@Moderator
"As for the director Tarantino, I got turned off by "From Dusk till Dawn"........."
I believe that "From Dusk till Dawn" was directed by Robert Rodriguez, who is kind of the Mexican Tarantino. Tarantino merely acted in it. I had heard that Tarantino got into directing because he wanted to be an actor (usually, that career trajectory goes the other way). Somebody must have taken him aside and pointed out to him that he's a lousy actor.
Rodriguez also directed the high-school sci-fi / comedy movie "The Faculty", which was actually pretty good.
Moderator
Monday - August 14th 2023 3:59AM MST
PS: Got the movie on the way, Mr. Anon. The internet can be pretty handy occasionally...
Moderator
Monday - August 14th 2023 3:56AM MST
PS: Mr. Anon, because I just watch movies for the entertainment and only keep track - in a small sense - of a few actors that are well known, I'd totally forgotten that this actor, Mr. Cavielzel, was in "The Passion of the Christ". That should have been mentioned in this post, as this was part of the story, per a VDare post (which reminded me of this actor's previous role), with the leftists being against this movie just based on Christianity.
You'd think the story of the little kids being abused by - per them - mostly us White guys would be a win for them, so they'd have pushed the movie. But, but, Christianity, so nope. That VDare post and another that goes along with Mike Tre's point on the race of the perpetrators means I'll have another post on this.
As for the directory Tarantino, I got turned off by "From Dusk till Dawn" because it morphed from a just a simple violent movie into a supernatural thing. I didn't see that coming, and I didn't really like it. I should watch "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood". I'll take yours and Steve Sailer's recommendation on it. He's a very good reviewer, but I just don't like the Hollywood people worship is all... just because he lives in LA is not enough reason.
You'd think the story of the little kids being abused by - per them - mostly us White guys would be a win for them, so they'd have pushed the movie. But, but, Christianity, so nope. That VDare post and another that goes along with Mike Tre's point on the race of the perpetrators means I'll have another post on this.
As for the directory Tarantino, I got turned off by "From Dusk till Dawn" because it morphed from a just a simple violent movie into a supernatural thing. I didn't see that coming, and I didn't really like it. I should watch "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood". I'll take yours and Steve Sailer's recommendation on it. He's a very good reviewer, but I just don't like the Hollywood people worship is all... just because he lives in LA is not enough reason.
Moderator
Monday - August 14th 2023 3:49AM MST
PS: Alarmist, I guess because it's been so long - about 2 1/2 decades - since I watched TV, my mind wanders WAY far back, to the time of Sally Struthers (former TV wife of Meathead Stivck) going on about "for the price of one cup of coffee a day ..." whenever I think of TV charity pitches. It's not like I had a thing for her... young Barbara Romano, OTOH, different story entirely. She could have gotten me to donate much more than a cup of coffee's worth ... of something...
Mr. Anon
Sunday - August 13th 2023 5:41PM MST
PS
SoF was the first movie I saw in the theater since COVID. Not that I was afraid to go to a theater, it's just that no movie had come out in that time that much interested me. Most of my visits to the theater in recent years have been disappointing, given how lousy most movies seem to be now.
I saw "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" when it came out. I despise Tarantino as an amoral creep, and hadn't seen any of his movies since "Pulp Fiction", but I was intrigued by the attempt to show California in the 60s (and it was indeed done very well). I also saw "Chappaquiddick", which was pretty good (and interesting in that it showed that Hollywood is now willing to turn on Camelot).
SoF was the first movie I saw in the theater since COVID. Not that I was afraid to go to a theater, it's just that no movie had come out in that time that much interested me. Most of my visits to the theater in recent years have been disappointing, given how lousy most movies seem to be now.
I saw "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" when it came out. I despise Tarantino as an amoral creep, and hadn't seen any of his movies since "Pulp Fiction", but I was intrigued by the attempt to show California in the 60s (and it was indeed done very well). I also saw "Chappaquiddick", which was pretty good (and interesting in that it showed that Hollywood is now willing to turn on Camelot).
Mr. Anon
Sunday - August 13th 2023 5:36PM MST
PS
I saw the movie last month. I thought it was pretty well made. Most of the media tried to smear SoF by associating it with Q-Anon, then they just tried to ignore it.
Mike makes a lot of good points. The Great White Savior Complex displayed by the lead character, for example, which is off-putting when you think about it. Apparently, Caviezel himself shares this trait - he abstained from having children of his own in lieu of adopting children from China. That certainly is not what Western Civilization needs.
I still like Caviezel for his unapologetic Christianity and his willingness to piss off the right people. Also, I thought he was very good in "The Count of Monte Cristo", which I thought was a great movie.
I saw the movie last month. I thought it was pretty well made. Most of the media tried to smear SoF by associating it with Q-Anon, then they just tried to ignore it.
Mike makes a lot of good points. The Great White Savior Complex displayed by the lead character, for example, which is off-putting when you think about it. Apparently, Caviezel himself shares this trait - he abstained from having children of his own in lieu of adopting children from China. That certainly is not what Western Civilization needs.
I still like Caviezel for his unapologetic Christianity and his willingness to piss off the right people. Also, I thought he was very good in "The Count of Monte Cristo", which I thought was a great movie.
The Alarmist
Sunday - August 13th 2023 3:25AM MST
PS
Meant to say “in a theater in the last fifteen years.”
BTW, box-office derives from the old theater custom of selling tickets from the room where the money-box was kept.
Meant to say “in a theater in the last fifteen years.”
BTW, box-office derives from the old theater custom of selling tickets from the room where the money-box was kept.
The Alarmist
Sunday - August 13th 2023 3:21AM MST
PS
The only movie I saw in a theater, and the last one I will ever see in a theater, was Top Gun: Maverick. I wanted to get the big-screen experience of the flight scenes. Doom on me. The picture was blurry, the sound was way too loud, and I had a herd of buffalo behind me munching and slurping loudly on theater snacks and talking through the whole film. Turns out my home theater is a far better experience.
I see charity ads on UK TV far too often. It’s a big business convincing people otherwise struggling to feed their own families with real food to give up three quid a week the give clean water to Nzinga and Makemba so they can live long enough to make the journey to culturally enrich the High Shopping Street in your little degraded UK town. I think they could fix the water in at least two dozen African towns for the cost of showing a little waif carrying a ten litre bucket of murky water down a five kilometre dusty road in Africa, especially since recent news suggests her dirty African water might be safer than your own sewage-polluted “first world” water by foreign-owned Thames Water.
There’s big money in UK charities ... for their top management and the people they hire to shoot commercials to raise money. I’m sure its the same in the US, but not as noticeable as charity ads are drowned out by slip-and-fall-lawyer ads.
Note to self: I need to start a charity…How about “Save the meerkats” ?
Organised groups who purport to be Christians doing Christian good works anywhere else in the world are likely to be unwitting ... or possibly witting ... servants of Satan, to wit the Christian Charities turning MSP into Greater Mogadishu. I think its time to test their Christian resolve by feeding a few to the lions as football half-time entertainment.
The only movie I saw in a theater, and the last one I will ever see in a theater, was Top Gun: Maverick. I wanted to get the big-screen experience of the flight scenes. Doom on me. The picture was blurry, the sound was way too loud, and I had a herd of buffalo behind me munching and slurping loudly on theater snacks and talking through the whole film. Turns out my home theater is a far better experience.
I see charity ads on UK TV far too often. It’s a big business convincing people otherwise struggling to feed their own families with real food to give up three quid a week the give clean water to Nzinga and Makemba so they can live long enough to make the journey to culturally enrich the High Shopping Street in your little degraded UK town. I think they could fix the water in at least two dozen African towns for the cost of showing a little waif carrying a ten litre bucket of murky water down a five kilometre dusty road in Africa, especially since recent news suggests her dirty African water might be safer than your own sewage-polluted “first world” water by foreign-owned Thames Water.
There’s big money in UK charities ... for their top management and the people they hire to shoot commercials to raise money. I’m sure its the same in the US, but not as noticeable as charity ads are drowned out by slip-and-fall-lawyer ads.
Note to self: I need to start a charity…How about “Save the meerkats” ?
Organised groups who purport to be Christians doing Christian good works anywhere else in the world are likely to be unwitting ... or possibly witting ... servants of Satan, to wit the Christian Charities turning MSP into Greater Mogadishu. I think its time to test their Christian resolve by feeding a few to the lions as football half-time entertainment.
Moderator
Saturday - August 12th 2023 1:26PM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I agree with those who think the box office* numbers are/were goosed up.
I wish I had more concrete proof saved via screen shots and all - didn't quite care that much - but the theater** that we went to had shown that we were lucky to get seats to this movie when my wife looked the same afternoon. That was, say 4 hours before. Yet, the place couldn't have been much more than a few percent above half filled. To guess, it's about a 200 seat place, pretty big, but just 200 max due to the very large seats.
I can't believe that 75 to 100 seats were reserved, but all of them couldn't make it. So, that was probably some of that "donation" business. It's not, by any means, the best way to donate, if you're goal is to somehow prevent human trafficking with that money. The theater and Hollywood get their cut.
I should think of it more like a "screw-you, Hollywood" thing, though, as it's more that these people wanted to build up attendance and money numbers to show the anti-Christianity crowd that had panned the film for that reason. I would show Hollywood that movies with this pro-religion (not that much!) theme will sell.
Again, not the best way to get things done, IMO.
* BTW, WTF is actually the "box office"? Sounds like a nightstand in a brothel.
** There aren't that many left anymore, so we had to go a ways to get to this one, a fancy new theater with comfortable seats, $10 buckets of popcorn, and the like. I know we are talking about the very same one.
I wish I had more concrete proof saved via screen shots and all - didn't quite care that much - but the theater** that we went to had shown that we were lucky to get seats to this movie when my wife looked the same afternoon. That was, say 4 hours before. Yet, the place couldn't have been much more than a few percent above half filled. To guess, it's about a 200 seat place, pretty big, but just 200 max due to the very large seats.
I can't believe that 75 to 100 seats were reserved, but all of them couldn't make it. So, that was probably some of that "donation" business. It's not, by any means, the best way to donate, if you're goal is to somehow prevent human trafficking with that money. The theater and Hollywood get their cut.
I should think of it more like a "screw-you, Hollywood" thing, though, as it's more that these people wanted to build up attendance and money numbers to show the anti-Christianity crowd that had panned the film for that reason. I would show Hollywood that movies with this pro-religion (not that much!) theme will sell.
Again, not the best way to get things done, IMO.
* BTW, WTF is actually the "box office"? Sounds like a nightstand in a brothel.
** There aren't that many left anymore, so we had to go a ways to get to this one, a fancy new theater with comfortable seats, $10 buckets of popcorn, and the like. I know we are talking about the very same one.
Hail
Saturday - August 12th 2023 12:52PM MST
PS
There have been some seriously negative reviews of this movie, though not often quite like Mike Tre's.
One criticism is that the movie "gooses up" its own box-office numbers substantially via that innovation on the time-honored "donate to a good cause" like rescuing stray animals or helping starving children, or "donate NOW to get the give of the Holy Spirit" type tee-vee commercials or informercials or televangelism.
There are well-meaning people out there with money to spare who will buy such tickets "so more people can see this important movie and help to end child-trafficking," but it's a cheap (so to speak) way to climb in the box-office rankings. This strategy is dishonest overall but fits with the tenor of the 2020s.
There have been some seriously negative reviews of this movie, though not often quite like Mike Tre's.
One criticism is that the movie "gooses up" its own box-office numbers substantially via that innovation on the time-honored "donate to a good cause" like rescuing stray animals or helping starving children, or "donate NOW to get the give of the Holy Spirit" type tee-vee commercials or informercials or televangelism.
There are well-meaning people out there with money to spare who will buy such tickets "so more people can see this important movie and help to end child-trafficking," but it's a cheap (so to speak) way to climb in the box-office rankings. This strategy is dishonest overall but fits with the tenor of the 2020s.
Moderator
Saturday - August 12th 2023 11:48AM MST
PS: Agreed, Bill. I don't know what to think when I see a Christian group headed to Haiti or some other hellhole. I know, "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." OK, they are indeed "the least", but it's hopeless there, but it's not all hopeless over here, where YOUR closer-to-brothers are.
Yes, they do feel it's more noble to go on a long arduous trip and sweat it out building some school that'll probably go to rot later then just do something locally or give money to a good and constructive cause here.
Yes, they do feel it's more noble to go on a long arduous trip and sweat it out building some school that'll probably go to rot later then just do something locally or give money to a good and constructive cause here.
Bill H
Saturday - August 12th 2023 11:33AM MST
PS In a similar vein, I cry no tears for people who just had to go to Syria to help the people suffering there because they didn't want to waste their time helping all the people suffering in their own home country of the USA. Their countrymen's pain is not their problem, somehow it is more noble to let the people at home die of disease and starvation while you go save lives 3000 miles away.
I really enjoyed Mike's review. He is a solid WN, and that makes him a reliable filter for movies. I'll take a pass on SoF.
I have been a Caviezel fan since watching Person of Interest. But he is obviously a Christian Civnat - the most dangerous and misguided of the conservative types. The civnat spiritual leader is Pres. George W. Dumbass.