Posted On: Saturday - January 13th 2024 8:02PM MST
In Topics: Music Bible/Religion
In our most recent Christmas post, with that classic Christmas music, Peak Stupidity mentioned a coming post about modern church music versus old-timey hymns. I realized that I'd written most of what I intended to say already, but in a post from nearly 5 years back, Modern Church music is not the Rock of Ages.
From that post:
It's just not church if you don't have the old familiar hymns, sung, or better yet, sung and accompanied by a loud pipe organ, that's all there is to it. The hymns are hundreds, if not thousands of years old. They've been time-tested, see, while the new songs played on guitar, keyboards, and bass have not.I couldn't have said it better myself, again - I was about to write nearly the same thing.
Because the tunes don't stay in the churchgoers heads, the lyrics don't either. It doesn't help when the tunes are complex and don't have a simple bunch of verses and same chorus. You can tell this music doesn't stick, because, well look at the picture above. That big screen up there is required, with a dot that goes from syllable to syllable, to show those who want to sing where they are in the song at all times. For a good solid song, you shouldn't need that.
I'll just add that I've paid more attention to the music and the lyrics lately to note what the problem is with the modern stuff. One lady even had a song of her own that could be included nicely with the famous hymns - it was that good. The other two of hers, however, would have been great for a Christian music album, but nobody else is gonna get them down pat.. You can't be singing in Church wondering "where's that confounded bridge?!" Keep it simple.
That last page had this good churchy version of Rock of Ages, so I'll embed it again. This hymn has got to be in top 5 most well known. If this were #2 behind Amazing Grace, then #3 would be How Great Thou Art, wouldn't it? Were you to walk around town 60 years go in America on a Sunday morning, you'd be bound to hear one of them.
Believer or not, this kind of music is moving, that's for sure. Happy Sunday, Peakers! Thanks for reading and especially for writing in. Next week, there's bound to be a China post or two, a few odds and ends, and we'll try to get back to various series that we've dropped.
PS: I sure hope some readers get the Zeppelin reference. Asterisks shouldn't be necessary.
Comments:
Hail
Monday - January 15th 2024 6:47AM MST
PS
-- Iowa Caucus Day: Taking bets --
Is Adam Smith running the Peak-Stupidity "Iowa Caucus" betting-pool?
Predictions requested:
1.) What % of the 40 delegates will Trump win? (people are saying less than 50% would be a failure and would empower his rivals)
2.) Who gets second place in delegates?
3.) Who gets third place in delegates?
4.) Who will The Media declare to be the "real winner"?
5.) Will Asa Hutchinson win any delegates? (1 of 40 would be an achievement).
6.) Will any Peak Stupidity supporters disrupt the cable-news talkers' coverage with a banner that says:
"PEAK STUPIDITY IS NEAR! TAKE NECESSSARY PRECAUTIONS AND COUNTER-MEASURES! PeakStupidity.com is the answer! Now leaner and meaner without ties to the Steve Sailer comment-box lagoon. All true opponents of Stupidity welcome. Corvinus not welcome. Thanks for reading this banner in full."
_______________
Republican 2016 Iowa Caucus delegates:
30 at play
8 went to Ted Cruz;
7 went to Blompf;
7 went to Rubio-Robot;
3 went to Ben Carson, Respectable Black Doctor;
1 went (each) to !Jeb! Bush, Rand Paul, entrepreneuress Carly Fiorina, anti-Blompf-fanatic John Kasich, sleeping-pill salesman Mike Huckabee.
It seems that Trump in 2016 overperformed his polling. He "should have" gotten 8 to 10+ delegates of the thirty, projecting straight-on from the polls, but only got 7 in the end. The numbers are small, but the attention is all focused so it's inflated.
It's a strange system, this song-and-dance-and-dog-and-pony show of endless political campaigning and long-strung-out "caucuses" and "primaries" that last months, before the D-Team vs. Other Guy main election; I have come to the view that the whole thing may be something that qualifies for a high score in the trusty-old Stupidity-Quotient used by Peak Stupidity insiders.
-- Iowa Caucus Day: Taking bets --
Is Adam Smith running the Peak-Stupidity "Iowa Caucus" betting-pool?
Predictions requested:
1.) What % of the 40 delegates will Trump win? (people are saying less than 50% would be a failure and would empower his rivals)
2.) Who gets second place in delegates?
3.) Who gets third place in delegates?
4.) Who will The Media declare to be the "real winner"?
5.) Will Asa Hutchinson win any delegates? (1 of 40 would be an achievement).
6.) Will any Peak Stupidity supporters disrupt the cable-news talkers' coverage with a banner that says:
"PEAK STUPIDITY IS NEAR! TAKE NECESSSARY PRECAUTIONS AND COUNTER-MEASURES! PeakStupidity.com is the answer! Now leaner and meaner without ties to the Steve Sailer comment-box lagoon. All true opponents of Stupidity welcome. Corvinus not welcome. Thanks for reading this banner in full."
_______________
Republican 2016 Iowa Caucus delegates:
30 at play
8 went to Ted Cruz;
7 went to Blompf;
7 went to Rubio-Robot;
3 went to Ben Carson, Respectable Black Doctor;
1 went (each) to !Jeb! Bush, Rand Paul, entrepreneuress Carly Fiorina, anti-Blompf-fanatic John Kasich, sleeping-pill salesman Mike Huckabee.
It seems that Trump in 2016 overperformed his polling. He "should have" gotten 8 to 10+ delegates of the thirty, projecting straight-on from the polls, but only got 7 in the end. The numbers are small, but the attention is all focused so it's inflated.
It's a strange system, this song-and-dance-and-dog-and-pony show of endless political campaigning and long-strung-out "caucuses" and "primaries" that last months, before the D-Team vs. Other Guy main election; I have come to the view that the whole thing may be something that qualifies for a high score in the trusty-old Stupidity-Quotient used by Peak Stupidity insiders.
Moderator
Monday - January 15th 2024 6:45AM MST
PS: Thanks, Mr. Ganderson and Mr. Blanc. I wouldn't have heard of these guys - I'm more familiar with Dwight Schrute, but then he's a fictional character who didn't write hymms.
Alarmist and Dieter Kief, that was short and ... errr sweet? I wonder what the Dead Kennedyies would think of their lyrics now, some that refer to a world that expected or acted like there was/would be a tyranny from the religious right.
Dieter, I appreciate your summary of the Dead Kennedies band mammber names too. I would have figured out only a couple of them, with some effort.
On your point 1, yes, that sounds like Steve Sailer. He's a realist but without a belief in Constitutional principles. He seems to believe in moral principles without being a Theist, but then he has the wrong assumption that every one else in the world believes in moral principles too. If only they would understand his impeccable logical arguments, then they'd start behaving because iSteve makes sense.
Yes, he does. However they don't care, because they want power and don't care a bit about morals.
Anyway, regarding your other numbered points, you've hit upon a subject for a post - hopefully this week before I forget the whole thing. I'll start with that part of your comment.
Alarmist and Dieter Kief, that was short and ... errr sweet? I wonder what the Dead Kennedyies would think of their lyrics now, some that refer to a world that expected or acted like there was/would be a tyranny from the religious right.
Dieter, I appreciate your summary of the Dead Kennedies band mammber names too. I would have figured out only a couple of them, with some effort.
On your point 1, yes, that sounds like Steve Sailer. He's a realist but without a belief in Constitutional principles. He seems to believe in moral principles without being a Theist, but then he has the wrong assumption that every one else in the world believes in moral principles too. If only they would understand his impeccable logical arguments, then they'd start behaving because iSteve makes sense.
Yes, he does. However they don't care, because they want power and don't care a bit about morals.
Anyway, regarding your other numbered points, you've hit upon a subject for a post - hopefully this week before I forget the whole thing. I'll start with that part of your comment.
Dieter Kief
Monday - January 15th 2024 1:30AM MST
PS
Alarmist , here are the lyrics of Dead Kennedys' interesting song Moral Majority you brought up.
which begins with a hymn to modern days's God: Michey Mouse
Dead Kennedys Moral Majority
(Hymn-like)
We are gathered here tonight
To pay tribute to our Lord, and money unto me
Oh, Lord in heaven, let us pray!
You, T.V. viewers, give me your pay and see
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
(Now: Punk-overdrive mode - - fast, hard, rough loud)
1) You call yourself the Moral Majority
We call ourselves the people in the real world
Trying to rub us out, but we're going to survive
God must be dead if you're alive
2) You say, "God loves you, come and buy the Good News"
Then you buy the president and swimming pools
If Jesus don't save 'til we're lining your pockets
God must be dead if you're alive
3) Circus-tent con-men and Southern belle bunnies
Milk your emotions then they steal your money
It's the new dark ages with the fascists toting Bibles
Cheap nostalgia for the Salem Witch Trials
4) Stodgy ayatollahs in their dobble-knit ties
Burn lots of books so they can feed you their lies
Masturbating with a flag and a Bible
God must be dead if you're alive
5) Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell
Blow it out your ass, Jesse Helms
Blow it out your ass, Ronald Reagan
What's wrong with a mind of my own?
You don't want abortions, you want battered children
You want to ban the pill as if that solves the problem
Now you wanna force us to pray in school
God must be dead if you're such a fool
6) You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Klu Klux Klan
Pissed at your neighbour? Don't bother to nag
Pick up the phone and turn in a fag
Blow it out your ass, Terry Dolan
Blow it out your ass, Phyllis Schlafly
Ram it up your cunt, Anita
'Cause God must be dead if you're alive
God must be dead if you're alive
Songwriters: Jello Biafra, East Bay Ray, D. H. Peligro, Klaus Fluoride.
Klaus Flouride is somehow hinting at the depressive King of the Netherlands and klaus the flouride in the drinking water
And: - KLaus Barbie, head of Nazi internment camps in Lyon, methinks - I could be wrong)
Jello Biafra refers to the hunger crisis in Biafra and the wrongly to revolutionarily beheaded Queen of France Marie Antoinette attributed idea to feed the hungry cake just in case they run out of bread (she never said that, but it sounded good if she had...so: Most peopüle say she has actually said that. Oh - lots of hearvest mishaps had happened due to very bad summers a meteorologicla truth...).
What stands out in the song is (numbers refer to verses in song)
1) the reference to - - - Reality as opposed to The Moral Majority - this is the part that expalins why Steve Sailer is influenced by punk-rock - - his motto (!) - daily repeated on the Unz Review is :
Maybe on the wrong side of history
But on the right side of reality
And Steve still quotes punk bands here and there
2) brings the good news fallcy and media manipulation
3) the emotionalization of the public dioscourse as something deeply wrong
4) Msulim and Christian fundamentalism - a rather clichéd one
5) school-prayer-critique - a little bit on the routine side too
6) In defense of the gays against the Moral Majority - - - this looks very much outdayted now - reversed even: Gays have bcome part oof the Moral Majority - (Alanis Morisette: Isn't htis Ironic? - - - How that Radiates?!!)
Alarmist , here are the lyrics of Dead Kennedys' interesting song Moral Majority you brought up.
which begins with a hymn to modern days's God: Michey Mouse
Dead Kennedys Moral Majority
(Hymn-like)
We are gathered here tonight
To pay tribute to our Lord, and money unto me
Oh, Lord in heaven, let us pray!
You, T.V. viewers, give me your pay and see
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
(Now: Punk-overdrive mode - - fast, hard, rough loud)
1) You call yourself the Moral Majority
We call ourselves the people in the real world
Trying to rub us out, but we're going to survive
God must be dead if you're alive
2) You say, "God loves you, come and buy the Good News"
Then you buy the president and swimming pools
If Jesus don't save 'til we're lining your pockets
God must be dead if you're alive
3) Circus-tent con-men and Southern belle bunnies
Milk your emotions then they steal your money
It's the new dark ages with the fascists toting Bibles
Cheap nostalgia for the Salem Witch Trials
4) Stodgy ayatollahs in their dobble-knit ties
Burn lots of books so they can feed you their lies
Masturbating with a flag and a Bible
God must be dead if you're alive
5) Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell
Blow it out your ass, Jesse Helms
Blow it out your ass, Ronald Reagan
What's wrong with a mind of my own?
You don't want abortions, you want battered children
You want to ban the pill as if that solves the problem
Now you wanna force us to pray in school
God must be dead if you're such a fool
6) You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Klu Klux Klan
Pissed at your neighbour? Don't bother to nag
Pick up the phone and turn in a fag
Blow it out your ass, Terry Dolan
Blow it out your ass, Phyllis Schlafly
Ram it up your cunt, Anita
'Cause God must be dead if you're alive
God must be dead if you're alive
Songwriters: Jello Biafra, East Bay Ray, D. H. Peligro, Klaus Fluoride.
Klaus Flouride is somehow hinting at the depressive King of the Netherlands and klaus the flouride in the drinking water
And: - KLaus Barbie, head of Nazi internment camps in Lyon, methinks - I could be wrong)
Jello Biafra refers to the hunger crisis in Biafra and the wrongly to revolutionarily beheaded Queen of France Marie Antoinette attributed idea to feed the hungry cake just in case they run out of bread (she never said that, but it sounded good if she had...so: Most peopüle say she has actually said that. Oh - lots of hearvest mishaps had happened due to very bad summers a meteorologicla truth...).
What stands out in the song is (numbers refer to verses in song)
1) the reference to - - - Reality as opposed to The Moral Majority - this is the part that expalins why Steve Sailer is influenced by punk-rock - - his motto (!) - daily repeated on the Unz Review is :
Maybe on the wrong side of history
But on the right side of reality
And Steve still quotes punk bands here and there
2) brings the good news fallcy and media manipulation
3) the emotionalization of the public dioscourse as something deeply wrong
4) Msulim and Christian fundamentalism - a rather clichéd one
5) school-prayer-critique - a little bit on the routine side too
6) In defense of the gays against the Moral Majority - - - this looks very much outdayted now - reversed even: Gays have bcome part oof the Moral Majority - (Alanis Morisette: Isn't htis Ironic? - - - How that Radiates?!!)
The Alarmist
Sunday - January 14th 2024 8:27PM MST
PS
https://youtu.be/WxUJnR3oURw?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/WxUJnR3oURw?feature=shared
MBlanc46
Sunday - January 14th 2024 11:47AM MST
PS 1) That’s not the Little Milton I was thinking about. An English Village, perhaps? 2) Maybe the Devil doesn’t have all the best tunes.
ganderson
Sunday - January 14th 2024 8:44AM MST
PS
I meant DAN Schutte- Michael Schutte played hockey at the University of Maine in the early 2000s.
Dan wrote a bunch of bad hymns; Michael was able to play in one of the greatest college games ever- the 2002 national championship game Maine vs Minnesota, in which the Gophers pulled their netminder and tied the game with 53 seconds left; and went on to win in OT. Michael Schutte got the penalty in OT.
The game was in St. Paul, and when Grant Potulny scored in OT it was one of the loudest sounds I'd ever heard!
I meant DAN Schutte- Michael Schutte played hockey at the University of Maine in the early 2000s.
Dan wrote a bunch of bad hymns; Michael was able to play in one of the greatest college games ever- the 2002 national championship game Maine vs Minnesota, in which the Gophers pulled their netminder and tied the game with 53 seconds left; and went on to win in OT. Michael Schutte got the penalty in OT.
The game was in St. Paul, and when Grant Potulny scored in OT it was one of the loudest sounds I'd ever heard!
Ganderson
Sunday - January 14th 2024 7:12AM MST
PS Marty Haugen, and the two Michaels , Schutte and Joncas have much to answer for. Let’s not forget the St. Louis Jesuits either.
Yeah, I won't be there with a banner - that black guy who tackled some DeSantis heckler was pretty quick, I gotta say.
I want to write a post on that first - how DeSantis handled it vs how Trump handled something similar. Both had "Climate Criminal" detractors. I know what I'd have said, and I swear it's not something I thought of 1/2 hour later on the ride home either.