PS: "That never ONCE happened to me. ANYWHERE I traveled IN UNIFORM. I long ago learned to accept the "you're a baby killer" looks in airports and to only eat packaged food anywhere I went."

Yeah, well, that was then, and this is now, Old Soldier. I've seen this get ramped up from a while after 9/11 up to the level it is now. One time, a flight attendant asked all of us onboard to applaud the soldiers. Sorry, they are not defending anything of mine, so I didn't feel an urge to clap and didn't.

"My kinfolk say those in the military - mostly the white ones - see the bloodbath coming and are working hard to get out ASAP." Yeah, why get dragged down by the very people who deride, hate, and work against you?

What you wrote reminds me of a book I'm reading - it got into some stories of transport of American soldiers to/from Vietnam. The author writes about Pan Am flight attendants back in that time who worked those flights. The author, though, in 2 instances, felt the need to bring up racism wrt to the military, and I could see she didn't know the half of it.

Part of the reason the White soldiers had a beef with working with black soldiers had to do with the lower discipline and abilities dragging them down, and in wartime that can mean death, not just frustration as in the regular workplace. The author did not want to understand this aspect of the "racism".

I got a review coming, of course.

PS: For those who missed it, Adam Smith's youtube link goes to: US Army - Emma, The Calling #GOARMY (2021) No, you may not want to ....

Adam, I think what worked for the Regime for many years was to make American men who did have the fighting spirit to THINK they were somehow defending America, the American way, whatever ... It's quit working, finally.

Thanks for the reply in answer to my question, Alarmist.

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Trump on politicians as killers.
Is Putin a killer? - 20 sec. that are dense and
clear - -

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1747597790375518630?s=20

PS I've got kinfolk in the military. They've told me repeatedly that all military training, nowadays, is simulated training including sporadic weapons qualifying. No live fire, no bad weather or night fire training, no 'hands-on' weapons training or maintenance, etc. And, according to kinfolk, nobody fails simulated training including scarce weapons qualification training. I can only wonder how US simulated trained troops will stack up against Putin's combat hardened troops in actual combat if it should ever come to that? Our hollowed out and severely weakened military is being set up for a bloodbath and quick battlefield failure, or so it seems to me. My kinfolk say those in the military - mostly the white ones - see the bloodbath coming and are working hard to get out ASAP.

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LOL, Bill H... The nice thing about being an aviator is that you have no doubts you will come back to the surface. I got to visit the borders of the USSR a few times, and was given a warm “Go Away” on one occasion.

PS "Risk free?" "World travel?" Tell me about it.

We were training some Marines and one of them asked me about the rukus that was going on if we were diving. I told him that we were either diving or we were sinking. Sort of freaked him out and he asked what the difference was. I told him that if we come back up we're diving, if we don't come back up we're sinking. He wanted to know if there was really any doubt about us coming back up and I told him, "This boat is 21 years old. There is always doubt about us coming back up."

The only world travel I got was to the north coast of Russia, which was neither scenic or much fun. If you didn't freeze to death or get sunk by storms, you stood a fair chance of getting sunk by the Soviet Navy. In summer the weather was a little better, but there was 24 hours of daylight, so you ran a higher risk of being seen when you were on the surface charging batteries.

That bbeing said, the idea of being cooped up on that boat with gays and transvestites for four months at a time makes freezing and dodging Soviet destroyers seem pretty small potatoes.

PS: "Plus, one can get on airliners first, before often even 1st class passengers and be thanked for "your service"." That never ONCE happened to me. ANYWHERE I traveled IN UNIFORM. I long ago learned to accept the "you're a baby killer" looks in airports and to only eat packaged food anywhere I went.

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If you told, you got booted out.

Before DADT, we had a guy who was flying pretty close to flaming, but he kept quiet about his private life, so he was pretty much left in peace. The Army might have been a bit more inquisitive than the AF as to his love life.

PS: Good morning, gentlemen,

I guess White boys don't want to die for Greater Isreal. Weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8-Yslv4PME

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"I should have noted that another reason to still join up is to get training for what's coming."

I hadn't thought of that. Very good point, Mr. Moderator, and not a bad strategy for traditionally oriented young men. BTW, I meant to mention what a good article this is in my comment, but didn't. Great work!

PS: I was writing while you posted that, Alarmist. "I was out before “Don’t Ask - Don’t Tell,” so I don’t know how quickly things have slid downhill." I always thought that policy was pretty common-sensical at least. It seems like the flamers would not be let in or stay in. What was to be the deal if someone "told" on himself?

PS: True, J1234, the guys that join due to long-term family and cultural reasons would be Conservative, though there have probably been plenty (along with other race/sex/etc) who joined for the training, education benefits etc. Yes, it's been disproportionally Southerners too.

I was just adding that exception of subterfuge to cover my bases, but really, I should have noted that another reason to still join up is to get training for what's coming. That's not a "polite" thing to write, but I've read the before and think it's not a bad idea. One would have to put up with all the crap though, for, what, the basic 2 or 4 years? (I don't know.) Additionally, just the act of signing up would give the recruiters the wrong idea, that one is OK with all the D.I.E. crap and "invade the world".

I think you did the right thing, even if it was not so intentional, re your son. I also agree with the last paragraph. I guess they wouldn't respect another Robert E. Lee, as they don't anymore the original.

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The diversity crap was already annoying in the early ‘80s. I was out before “Don’t Ask - Don’t Tell,” so I don’t know how quickly things have slid downhill. As the old joke goes, how long before being gay is mandatory, not to mention being forced to recite the crime of being a White male?

Hearing what I hear today, there is no way I would volunteer, and if drafted I would not report.

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"....why would any normal white male want to have anything to do with it [the US military] barring planned subterfuge*?"

I've thought about this. Given the cultural/historical tendency of the military over the last century or so, the "normal white males" who've enlisted in years past might be more accurately described as CONSERVATIVE normal white males, often disproportionately from the southeastern US. I used to feel slightly awkward or even embarrassed about not having served in the military, but not any more, given its current corrupt nature.

The subterfuge you mention may not be realistic, but I sometimes wonder if there's been any kind of unspoken 1850's style "Kansas rush" into the military by conservatives in an effort to stem the tide of political correctness, feminism, wokeness and even non-whiteness. It would be nice to think so, but I doubt it. Patriotic culture, while a genuine motivator for working class and rural American men, has probably always been a distant second to opportunity as a reason for signing up.

My son, who's less conservative than I am, isn't interested in that stuff either, and that's partly my influence. I dislike the military industrial complex, but a bigger reason for dissuading him from the army is to keep him away from a life of petty pecking orders among petty and belligerent people. (Especially belligerent non-whites who hate whites.)

A bigger question I have is whether the US military will ever become the strong arm enforcer (banana republic style) of the deep state left in a post-constitutional America? For me, this is the biggest concern I have about anti-Constitution rhetoric from the left.