PS: I didn't catch your comment until just now, J1234. Thanks. You have a good feel for the times and how things have changed. Yes, that Tipper Gore campaign against the dirty lyrics would be something anyone of the D-squad today would be extremely embarrassed to have even brought up from his/her past.

Thanks for that info on the CPUSA too. I didn't even know there had been and was such a thing until the '00s or so.

PS: I pretty much agree, Alarmist, but I'll stay off that issue. This led to Mr. Hail's comment - Mr. Sailer sometimes puts a lot of thought into the stats and reasons for things that those on certain bandwagons (legal abortion saved us from more grief) may not want to hear. I don't know about that issue, but I do remember that he looked into crime in Miami and that crack "epidemic" and violence being purely a result of that Carter boner called the Mariel Boat Lift (125,000? Cuban criminals released to S. Florida), and I though that was very good thinking.

I read C.J. Hopkin's article, Dieter. Thanks for that! I've got more to say about that, but it'll have to be later ...

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"I don't know how religious President Ronald Reagan really was, but he was less overtly Christian than his predecessor Jimmy Carter. However, as Conservative as he may seem now, Jimmy was politically with the ctrl-left of the time..."

True about Carter. It's possible his religiosity was played up a bit to appeal to black church lady voters back then, but he was probably sincere about his faith, such as it was. He fit the profile of Christians of the Democratic party in the '70's and '80's - they had a very strong streak of "social gospel" running through them. Some - like Al Gore's wife - were even willing to take a stand on Christian principles that were unpopular with significant segments of the left. I wasn't particularly a fan of Tipper, but she was a symbol of how (relatively) little Us vs. Them (i.e., Dem vs. Rep) thinking there was among the Democrats of her day. To her, the "Us vs. Them" meant those who were civilized vs. those who weren't. I can go along with that.

"Strong religious beliefs are, and have always been, anathema to Communists...."

It was in the late '80's that the Communist Party USA stopped running their own presidential candidates and instead started endorsing Democratic party candidates. No Democratic presidential candidate since/including Michael Dukakis has ever disavowed or renounced endorsement by the CPUSA (the only political organization in the history of the US to be outlawed by an act of congress.) So, was there a new unholy alliance being forged at that time between between the naive but basically benign progressives of the Democratic party and the virulent atheistic radicals of far left America? I can't say...maybe it took place before that, maybe after that. I know there was something of an alliance that existed back in FDR's New Deal and later during the HUAC McCarthy days, but Dems like Truman, JFK and even LBJ - as great as their faults could be - were willing to acknowledge the threat of Communism, each in their own way.

PS: Mr.Blanc, perhaps the Founders just looked at some of the colonies that were expectedly religious in their founding and governments, and just didn't want the Federal Gov. being formed to go in that direction. However, the differences, as you wrote, were not large - different denominations of Protestantism and some offbeat few - Quakers, Shakers, what have you, and then the Catholics. All were Christian - even those Unitarians who are now pretty much "we believe there is up to one god, no more than that." (I'm butchering that joke cause I can't find it!) were straight-laced Christians out of Boston back then.

Would they have been fine with large masses of Moslems moving here? I think not, and I think they might have hesitated on that portion of Amendment I were it the case.

We have all kinds now, and, as you wrote, even homegrown new-agers are just one more diverse part of the array of religions. It worked for a while... but after 60 years of large-scale immigration ...?

PS: Good morning, Mr. Hail!

Better Angels of Our Nature by Steven Pinker
http://tinyurl.com/jsjwpa22

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238971734063226881.html

Thanks for the update on C.J. Hopkins. A little hard to believe the criminals masquerading as "the government of Germany" are still persecuting Mr. Hopkins for heresy. Did they not get the memo that PanicFest is over?

I too hope Dieter can pull some strings and get Mr. Hopkins' case dismissed with prejudice.

☮️

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correction -- "IF he is found innocent," Hopkins suggests he'll buy coffees for diehard supporters, after walking free from the court.

Will C. J. Hopkins be found innocent or guilty? Will Dieter Kief pull strings high-up in the government to get C. J.Hopkins a kinder judge and, if necessary, a more-spacious jail-cell and speedy release?

See--

https://consentfactory.org/2024/01/16/meet-the-thought-police/

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-- C. J. Hopkins on trial --

It seems that C. J. Hopkins is finally being put on trial in Berlin, Germany, this coming week, with a court-date of Jan 23, 2024.

He has stood accused, for almost two years now, of:

-- Corona-Denialism,

-- Offenses against public-health (urging people to NOT wear masks);

and, possibly:

-- Defamation against government authorities for alleging malicious conspiracies by the German government to take away people's rights,

-- and personal-attacks against German Minister of Health Lauterbach (whom I once called "Germany's Wrongest Man").

Hopkins invites his fans to come to the courtroom, as guests are allowed. He suggests that he is found innocent he will pay for coffees for all his fans. If he is dragged away, he'll at least have witnesses.

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RE: The Alarmist,

-- On the death penalty (and abortion)'s possible eugenic effect --

Dr Peter Frost, in the 2010s in direct response to the Steven Pinker book "Better Angels of Our Nature," showed that there is reason to believe violence declined in the West in great part due to heavy use of the death-penalty. Over a period of centuries, the death-penalty liberally applied took out the antisocial violent elements from the gene-pool.

Steven Pinker's argument in "Better Angels of Our Nature" had deemphasized a "gene-pool" component and had much happy-talk about democracy and such, Enlightenment Values leading to a reduction in violence. I think Steve Sailer had much to say about the Pinker book back then (early 2010s):

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/steven-pinkers-peace-studies/

Steve Sailer back in 2011 was still willing to make forays into open criticism of our Hebrew friends, and he made some carefully worded attacks on Pinker as a member of that religio-ethnic group with biases typical of that group, which influenced his thinking on the supposed savage state of medieval Europe and the supposed placid nonviolence after the Emancipation of that religious group and dismantling of traditional hostile and restrictive policies against that group.

As for abortion, Steve Sailer was for years in back-and-forth argument about whether legalized abortion caused the decline in crime or not. Maybe surprisingly, Sailer opposed the idea. The Sailer critics of the ca. 2020 period, of which there are many regulars in his own comment-section, might say this is his fuddy-duddy-conservative instincts at work. Cf also his recent high interest in Black Traffic-Accident Statistics (as Je Suis Omar Mateen puts it).

"You keep hearing this abortion cuts crime theory because it sounds so politically incorrect that it has to be true, but, judging from the historical record, it’s at least as likely that legalizing abortion contributed to this vast murder spree." -- Steve Sailer, May 2003

PS

The video I linked to scrolled the lyrics so you could follow along: It is truly amazing how Jello Biafra could deliver all that verbosity at such a pace.

A Christian Theocracy isn’t looking so bad now that we’re experiencing the left’s brave new DIE world.

I think abortion is an abomination, but I’m cool with it since majority of people seeking abortions are precisely the ones we don’t want reproducing. In return, they should make up their minds by the 15th week, so that their evil handlers cannot profit off the sale of fetal body parts, which is what they are doing with late-term abortions.

All I ask for being cool with abortion is a reiprocal cool with “liberal” use of the death penalty for serious crimes rather than letting perps rot in prison for decades or, even worse, setting the scum free. Then again, think of all the murderers and rapists who would never have walked the streets if they had been aborted in the first place.

To paraphrase Biafra, every time I hear Buck Sexton read the ad copy from some anti-abortion group talking about saving unborn babies, I can only think...

Blow it out your ass, Buck Sexton!

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From the outside - - -amen, MBlanc46.

PS The founders of this republic were diverse enough regarding religion that they built freedom of religion into their fundamental law. The founders were all Christian or Christian-adjacent, so, at least looking from the outside, they weren’t all that diverse. At the beginning of the 20th century, a small but significant number of members of the Tribe began to enter the country. At that point, religious controversy began to increase. Now we’ve got Muslims and Hindus and Sikhs and wacky white people with their New Agey wackazaniness and atheists and God knows what else. And of course, the anti-religious Left, which is something of a religion itself. Each of these groups wants to carve out its own little theocracy. (Except the Left, who want to impose their religion on everyone else with the help of state power.) The Christians are no different, and they have as much right to their piece of the former USA as any of the other groups, if they can take it and hold it.