Excess Deaths in the UK


Posted On: Tuesday - February 27th 2024 6:53AM MST
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Boy, that's got to bring back memories! Maybe they aren't the best memories, though. Readers that have been sticking with Peak Stupidity since/during the dark days of Kung Flu stupidity will probably remember that we got all analytic and spread-sheeting for a week* there in the summer of '21: Hey, what's the deal with excess deaths, anyway?**

Our motivation to get into these very simple calculations - they were nothing but arithmetic with Census data on age groups of the American population combined with CDC general mortality by age data - was the flat base curve*** used to calculate "excess deaths". There was no rise, yet the American median age is indeed rising quickly. The reader can follow the link above, but as a TL/DR version, simply using the year '19 for a baseline, rather than an average of '15 - '19 added 100,000 deaths to the base curve. This reduces those excess deaths by that amount, not covering it all, but still very significant.

Of all things to run into via The Gateway Pundit, a post titled How Convenient: UK Develops New Method to Count Excess Deaths Following Shocking Numbers Post COVID Vaccine was right in the Peak Stupidity wheelhouse. Most especially the quote from from the original source article from the UK Department of Statistics is:
As discussed in a previous ONS blog, fundamental to any method for estimating excess deaths is the question, how many deaths do we expect there to be in normal conditions; in other words, what would “normal” mortality levels look like? The current approach used by ONS and the devolved administrations provides a comparison between the number of deaths registered in the current year and the average number over a recent five-year period. For example, excess mortality in 2019 was estimated from data covering 2014 to 2018. 2020 was excluded from subsequent calculations to avoid distortion due to the extremely high number of death registrations, particularly during the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic. For 2020 and 2021, the average was calculated over 2015 to 2019, and for 2022, it was calculated over 2016 to 2019 plus 2021.
That's what we were saying 3 years ago. The difference is the excess death numbers were being maximized and touted on Regime Media (and by Steve Sailer, one has to agree) to show the terror of the Black Death 2.0. Now that the gene-therapy "vaccines" have been jabbed into populations for over 3 years not, the authorities - this instance is from the UK - are trying to minimize and pooh-pooh any such excess deaths from, the jab. However, I agree with the change in methodology here:
The weakness of this approach is that it doesn’t take into account the ageing and growing population of the UK (all else being equal, more people means more deaths, particularly if a greater share of the population are elderly); nor does it reflect recent trends in population mortality rates, which were generally falling until 2011 before levelling off until the onset of the pandemic.
My bolding there, as that's TWF I've been saying, people!

However, how would this correct change in calculation methods of a baseline of death, causing a baseline increase from a more elderly population, lower excess death numbers of young people, which is the worry per text and a tweet in the GP post? From Vigilant News:
UK HAS A PROBLEM: Excess deaths are up a staggering 22% among 1 to 14-year-olds.

Notably, this trend didn’t start until “the magic juice started to be issued to children later in 2021.”
Back to an explanation from the UK Office of Stat's Julie Stanborough:
Importantly, this approach moves away from averages drawn from raw numbers and instead uses age-specific mortality rates. This means when we ask that first question – how many deaths would we expect there to be? – we take into account how the population has grown and aged over time. The models also account for trends and seasonality in population mortality rates, and allow for estimates of excess deaths to be broken down by age group, sex, and constituent countries of the UK and English region.
OK, but are there 22% more 1 - 14 y/o's in the UK? I don't think so. Are kids in this age group recently subject to a higher death rate from other "normal" causes than the jab to make a higher baseline, but then, how would that be a "baseline" anyway, if other causes are increasing?

I don't know. I agree with the change, but I still don't trust these people...

Remember though, readers: Excess deaths due to the Kung Flu mean everything. Excess deaths due to the jab mean nothing.


* Not the good stuff, but Open Office "Calc". Lotus 123 was the good stuff. Calc sufficed well for me though.

** Our follow-up post were Mortality Addendum , Back to the excess death count - Could it be infants and illegal aliens?, and Excess Deaths revisited (with a video interview on the topic).

*** It had a seasonal variation - more deaths in wintertime - simple as that - but no general basic increase.

Comments:
Moderator
Wednesday - February 28th 2024 4:47PM MST
PS: Due to HTML "frames", it's easy to get the page up without the borders - then you can't go back easy. (I mean for those who came from a link.)

Thank you for bringing up that oldie, but goodie, Adam.

https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1705

Originally from Mr. Anon (with the image from Mr. Smith):

"I'm not wearing a chicken-suit for me. I'm wearing it for you!" "Thank you for your service!"
Adam Smith
Wednesday - February 28th 2024 4:08PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, everyone... And good evening, Dieter!

https://i.ibb.co/XYqf67v/The-Words-of-the-Prophets.jpg

And the Angel of Death doth cometh for all vaccine-fear mongers...

Did you know that the spring boosters are out?
http://tinyurl.com/m24sk3sm

Apparently biannual boosters are twice as safe and twice as effective as annual boosters...
http://tinyurl.com/4he3zn5e

Who'd a thunk it?

As I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear not Azrael, for I am wearing my chicken suit, alone, in my car, to protect me from the most sinister of viruses...

https://peakstupidity.com/blogworks.php?action=viewbpost&id=1705

And I always keep a jar of Gypsy tears in my pocket to protect me from bad vibes. ☮️
Dieter Kief
Wednesday - February 28th 2024 5:37AM MST
PS
Famous YouTuber Dr. David Campbell has been banging his head against this wall very often lately - scaring some of his "low IQ" (Ron Unz about the readers of Taki's mag, heheh) followers to death - for no good reason at all. -

(The base line is important Mod. - as we know...and lots of other stuff - such as locksowns - - - or school closures, which caused a lack of swimming lessons which DID cause the rise of kid's deaths in the US to never before in this century - seen numbers: Because the little ones - drwoned in droves, all of a sudden... - while the vaccine-fear mongers*** predicted that thoussands of kids would die right after the first vacciantion - let alone the seond and the fourth etc. - - (what did not ahppen at all).
Eroors over errors - piles of muddy/bloody errors - and the dirty rotten - - - : - - - truth - - - - in the midst of them, sweating its old rusty soul out...

***I predict the DEATH of ALL of them in this century! - Will happen watch out.
Moderator
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 5:31PM MST
PS: Old soldier, thanks for writing in again. VDare (of course) has been writing about that sort of thing for 20 years, long, long before the Kung Flu. Yes, diseases never seen in America in over half a century are baaaaackkk. Nobody will ever bring up the possible, actually, very likely reasons. That goes for other imports like bed bugs too, from what I've read on VDare 10-15 years back.

Nope, it was more important to destroy the country via population replacement than even the PanicFest efforts, or at least making them look consistent. OTOH, consistency was long blown out of the water once the George Floyd mayhem started. "No, they don't need masks. This is different. The smoke will kill the Covid germs." Anyway, I think it was more important for the Globalists/Commies to keep the Population Replacement Program going strong - it does more lasting damage.

"If I don't get vaccinated for Covid, I'm 100% protected against vaccine side effects and 99.8% protected against Covid. It's HARD to beat those numbers!" I'm cool with that. I'm pretty sure our family got this think in Spring of '22. I had to travel to the west though, for work. The germs went with me... that's a shame...

I'm in 100% agreement with the rest you wrote too.
Moderator
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 5:21PM MST
PS: Yeah, Long Covid, Mr. Blanc, I never really bought that one. I could see that a few symptoms might go on longer than in other people. A case 2 years from now? Well, some people get the flu every winter.

Yes, we're on the wrong side of the narrative here, but I'd say we're on the right side of history, assuming the world will be left with people who can write... history ... anything...
Moderator
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 5:19PM MST
PS: I couldn't open that .xls for some reason, Alarmist - normally Open Office Calc should be able to import it. Thanks for looking into it for us.

Regarding the mug, well, I'd rather drink out of that than go to an anti-White $5,000 dinner at this dot-Indian/Black lady's house, such as I stomached a portion of on TuckerCarlson.com. I got on a binge of watching some, or parts of some, of the video on his site, my being a TeamTucker spouse and all... That one was sick. Tucker had fun with it.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 2:13PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Mr. Moderator...

https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/25/lotus_123_for_linux_appears/
https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/linux123.html

Cheers! ☮️
Old Soldier
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 1:58PM MST
PS
Notice that illegals never wore masks, even during the peak Covid days. Illegals are bio weapons spreading TB, Covid, leprosy, polio, Chagas' Disease, and other illnesses. They are exempt from Covid shots even when all other travelers were required to take them.
Government elites don't wear masks. During the peak Covid days, these same elites wore masks ONLY for the cameras. Elites exempted themselves from all vaccine requirements. And none of the elites died.
If I don't get vaccinated for Covid, I'm 100% protected against vaccine side effects and 99.8% protected against Covid. It's HARD to beat those numbers!
The pathetic pathogen COVID never closed a single business, school, church, country club, arts theater, mall, stadium or public park - only governments did that.
Media cheered the lock downs and denounced anyone who doubted their narrative and Big Tech censored the dissident voices. It was all so planned...and now us peons wait for the next planned crisis. Governments, the WEF, CDC, WHO, and others are all planning the next "crisis" behind close doors NOW!
MBlanc46
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 11:47AM MST
PS They’re never wrong. They’re on the Right Side of History, so, of course, they’re always, um, Right. It’s “Long Covid” and you can’t prove it’s not, H8terz!
The Alarmist
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 7:41AM MST
PS

This is apparently a thing:

“PS. The A Black Woman Is Speaking mug is a standing invitation to sit down, shut up, and engage in the wisdom shared by Black women. Lord knows the world needs it right now.”

https://lulz.com/product/a-black-woman-is-speaking-ceramic-mug/


The Alarmist
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 7:34AM MST
PS

It’s only 5% if you accept the way ONS frames the data. BTW, 5% is still statistically significant with this dataset.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales/2023/publicationfileweek522023rerun.xlsx

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