Posted On: Thursday - June 27th 2024 6:54PM MST
In Topics: Pundits
Our 1st few thoughts and the video itself are here. Also, I found I could watch the whole video on Tucker Carlson's own site, without logging in - I've got to go through a short process to get a new PW, but I didn't have to for this particular video. (Possibly that's the case for all new ones for a short while.)
I hope you all will watch this interview. I watched the whole thing yesterday. Today, I went over parts of it, probably about 2/3 in total, to get to the parts I want to write about. Thanks go to Mr. Hail for finding me one spot I'd skipped over today.
"Who/whom?" a phrase from the Stalinist times in the USSR (near a century ago now), is a Steve Sailerism that the latter guy didn't employ in these 2 hours. It just fits for the title today, as I just want to mention who was mentioned. This is important, as Tucker Carlson does have a whole lot of American Conservative viewers. A short mention on the Tucker Carlson show could mean a lot to those involved and more importantly to the cause of Conservatism via a large number of new readers/viewers for those mentioned.
To begin with, and to answer a question Mr. Hail had before, no, Tucker had never met iSteve before in person but obviously knew his stuff and his reputation. He compared Steve Sailer to Matt Drudge (obviously the old Matt Drudge, before he went native) in that "everybody" read him, but nobody would admit he did.
How can you NOT like that guy, once you've seen him speak? Jared Taylor is greatly on the outs with cancellors of all sorts, the usual HATE Aggregators - $PLC, etc. - the Big "TECH" platforms, and everybody. It's such a shame, but then I suppose it's not technically "a shame" when this treatment is very purposeful. I am glad to see that (22:25 to start, then 23:02), in answer to Tucker's question "So why aren't there any organizations dedicated to them [rural (especially) White people]?", Steve brought up Jared Taylor. He also told Tucker how this "bright very gentlemanly fellow" "tried to do this for 30 years, and he's still banned on Twitter..." I'm glad Steve didn't go "conventional" here, though I wish he'd mentioned American Renaissance, Mr. Taylor's website, full of new articles daily, for exposure reasons. (Now viewers would have to look him up, and good luck with that!)
VDare was not mentioned. We know that Tucker has known VDare very well, if not before, after his interview of Lydia Brimelow. I can't recall (and don't see in the transcript) that Tucker introduced Steve's writing background at all*. Therefore, Steve would have had to bring up this organization. Seeing as it was much of his bread & butter for 20 years, I really figured he'd plug VDare, at least to explain where he'd expounded on his ideas, in addition to on Takimag and for most of the last decade, The Unz Review.**
Speaking of The Unz Review, neither it - Steve's most recent steady venue - nor that gentleman above were mentioned by either man. I say "gentleman", when I sort of mean "piece of work", but kind of in a nicer way. Mr. Unz, in his quest to run a true free speech bastion, and his site most certainly is, has got some strange bedfellows writing there. It's a bit much for even the Sailers and Carlsons of today's world, yes, even after this interview.
At 01:50:30, near the end, Steve talks about his possible place in the zeitgeist. (I am not really sure what a zeitgeist is, but he brings it up a lot). He does kind of have a big head about this all, BTW. I believe that his line at that point about being the Lord Voldemort, whose name must not be mentioned, was lifted from Ron Unz's oft-used line. Mr. Unz used to say that about his site, explaining why the ctrl-left would not try to cancel him. I think Ron Unz is so far out there, he's uncancellable. As much as I admire Ron Unz to a degree***, I understand why Steve didn't mention him. (Part of it may be his recent switch to his own site - maybe money matters?)
It's a shame VDare did not get another big plug here. Steve Sailer owes them a lot.
Next post in the series, because I can't wait, and you're gonna like this one: Discussion of the Kung Flu.
PS: OK, I really needed the transcript eventually, to write this. I had to get to my wife's acct, due to too much spam in my email accounts. Thanks, again, Mr. Hail - if you want me to look up anything, let me know. I could paste in the whole transcript somewhere, on your or my site, in a comment? I just found that some sections are skipped, however - one is a full minute about Bill Buckley and Pat Buchanan.
* In the part skipped in the transcript, starting at 01:52:50, Steve brought up that he used to write for National Review in the context of Buckley and Buchanan.
** That is very likely subject to change imminently, as
Steve Sailer.net has come into fruition. We'll have more on that.
*** ... not so much his political opinion, which is occasionally damn near retarded but his stalwart defense of what might be the truth and his great web skills.
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Moderator
Friday - June 28th 2024 6:07AM MST
PS: I could have sworn that Steve mentioned Takimag, but nope, it's not in the transcript (on TC site), which is missing a little bit though, and I didn't hear anything on my 2nd go-around, Mr. Hail.
As for VDare, Tucker didn't really do a bio or ask for one, so I'm not sure when he'd have fit that in. It wasn't like he was asking so many questions with short simple answers, so I guess he didn't want to take the time for something like "what do you think of the lawfare, Leticia James, etc...?" Steve wanted to talk about his many SS findings, and I assume they arranged that ahead of time.
This leads to The Unz Review. Yeah, I think both of them want to distance themselves - Tucker may really have not heard of it and maybe not even of Ron Unz himself*. OTOH, it was also a kind of under-the-radar place where, after all, come to think of it, where did all these people Tucker mentioned read iSteve from for the last 10 years, only on VDare? I don't know - people enjoy comments, reading and writing.
Anyway, I think Steve should have stuck a sentence about VDare somewhere in there. (There was a little bit more about immigration than that Africa influx - pleased to read, BTW, as I just wrote about it and couldn't remember Mr. Sailer noticing very much besides showing the World's Scariest Graph.) When he talked about the CotF, Steve mentioned the immigrants as being one sector. How about "but then, my long-term employer, VDare, keeps up with all this much more than I can."?
* Ron Unz was a California political figure or gadfly in the mid 1990s, but that was before Tucker's time of being aware of it all, I'd say.
As for VDare, Tucker didn't really do a bio or ask for one, so I'm not sure when he'd have fit that in. It wasn't like he was asking so many questions with short simple answers, so I guess he didn't want to take the time for something like "what do you think of the lawfare, Leticia James, etc...?" Steve wanted to talk about his many SS findings, and I assume they arranged that ahead of time.
This leads to The Unz Review. Yeah, I think both of them want to distance themselves - Tucker may really have not heard of it and maybe not even of Ron Unz himself*. OTOH, it was also a kind of under-the-radar place where, after all, come to think of it, where did all these people Tucker mentioned read iSteve from for the last 10 years, only on VDare? I don't know - people enjoy comments, reading and writing.
Anyway, I think Steve should have stuck a sentence about VDare somewhere in there. (There was a little bit more about immigration than that Africa influx - pleased to read, BTW, as I just wrote about it and couldn't remember Mr. Sailer noticing very much besides showing the World's Scariest Graph.) When he talked about the CotF, Steve mentioned the immigrants as being one sector. How about "but then, my long-term employer, VDare, keeps up with all this much more than I can."?
* Ron Unz was a California political figure or gadfly in the mid 1990s, but that was before Tucker's time of being aware of it all, I'd say.
E. H. Hail
Friday - June 28th 2024 12:38AM MST
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Why Steve Sailer declined to mention VDare is puzzling. I am sure if he were asked directly, he'd shrug and say: "I just didn't think of it, and it didn't come up."
I'd blame Tucker Carlson for not bringing it up, actually, more than Sailer for not mentioning it unprompted.
It's likely that there was some agreement of pre-arrangement not to mention The Unz Review at all. But VDare? And what about Taki-Mag, also not mentioned? And a variety of other publications, including a recent Sailer essay in "Chronicles" nagazine (the right-wing academic Paul Gottfried is editor; "Chronicles" being the old safe-harbor home of Sam Francis, among others).
They weren't named, but all of those outlets were ALLUDED to by Tucker Carslon, at various points. Always alluded to in negative terms, and with the usual sort of plausible deniability that one has said anything about a specific thing.
Why Steve Sailer declined to mention VDare is puzzling. I am sure if he were asked directly, he'd shrug and say: "I just didn't think of it, and it didn't come up."
I'd blame Tucker Carlson for not bringing it up, actually, more than Sailer for not mentioning it unprompted.
It's likely that there was some agreement of pre-arrangement not to mention The Unz Review at all. But VDare? And what about Taki-Mag, also not mentioned? And a variety of other publications, including a recent Sailer essay in "Chronicles" nagazine (the right-wing academic Paul Gottfried is editor; "Chronicles" being the old safe-harbor home of Sam Francis, among others).
They weren't named, but all of those outlets were ALLUDED to by Tucker Carslon, at various points. Always alluded to in negative terms, and with the usual sort of plausible deniability that one has said anything about a specific thing.
Tucker may well have never heard of TakiMag, but I'd think he'd have heard of Chronicles, it being more conventional. (Wasn't it also a print magazine before? I don't know if Takimag ever was.)
Which places would you say were where Tucker alluded to these other media outlets?