Posted On: Friday - July 5th 2024 7:35PM MST
In Topics: Music Humor The Future Geography Big-Biz Stupidity Guns
Although enjoying the humor often involved, Peak Stupidity has a more nuanced view of the proverbial Florida Man than most, errr, news outlets(?). We don't always sympathize - as with this Florida Man who took a not so nice shot due to his unhappiness with a haircut. OTOH, we are generally predisposed toward rednecks, such as those Florida Men who are competent with front-end loader machines even when drunk off their asses.
We were quite heartened to read the Gateway Pundit story reporting Florida Man Arrested After Shooting Down Walmart Delivery Drone. This was in Lake County Florida last week, as the drone was doing a demonstration.
Lake County is just north of the center of Florida. It's west of Orlando, south of Ocala, north of Lake City, and well northeast of Tampa Bay. It's big cattle country and was a big citrus growing area until the huge Global Warming induced cold wave at the end of 1989 destroyed much of the groves. Now it's getting developed big-time, like lots of Florida has especially as of late. This development is bad enough if you are already a Florida Man, wanting your peace and quiet. The last thing you want in your rural spread is a damn Wal-Mart drone flying over your property.
The "shooting down" part is questionable, as we read in the one short article by GP's Anthony Scott that:
Despite taking a bullet, the drone was able to fly back safely to Walmart, ...Damn! At least though:
... but an investigation revealed the drone received close to $2,500 worth of damages.So there's that, at least. Still, if it got back to Wal-Mart, it unfortunately wasn't exactly "rendered inoperable".
What we are impressed with is that this was a 9 mm pistol round, not pellets from a shotgun. "What a good shot, man!"
Here's the song that best fits this Florida Man story and Peak Stupidity's attitude about drones intruding into one's personal airspace:
I don't really know much about this 1990s band named Filter. Their one hit I remember hearing about 10 years after its time (1999) was, Take a Picture. I think that song is fantastic, with a really great melody and sound, so we featured it early on in the life of this blog.
Their older music, such as this one, from their album Short Bus, is said to be of the "Industrial Rock" genre. Filter played songs for a bunch of movie soundtracks too.
Now that the smoke's gone
and the air is all clear,
those who were right there
got a new kind of fear.
You'd fight and you were right,
but they were just too strong.
They'd stick it in your face
and let you smell what they consider wrong.
That's why I say "Hey man nice, nice shot!
What a good shot man!"
Comments:
Moderator
Sunday - July 7th 2024 4:39PM MST
PS: Sorry, Alarmist, I didn't catch what you meant the first time. Thanks for the correction. Yes, that recent SCROTUS decision is important. Everything is "rulemaking" now, "proposals for rulemaking" don't involve the voters. With the huge Fed Bureaucracy, the Congress CAN'T vote on every little thing, but then that was the general idea.
Adam Smith
Sunday - July 7th 2024 10:02AM MST
PS: Good morning, everyone!
Achmed, in re:
๐โ๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ค๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐ ๐ ๐ผ ๐๐๐'๐ก ๐๐๐๐ค ๐คโ๐๐ก โ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐...
Well, as far as I can tell, David Boggs filed a federal law suit against The Drone Slayer (his words, not mine) that asked the court to require Merideth to pay Boggs, "such equitable relief as it deems appropriate, including monetary damages, prejudgment interest, and the cost of filing this action."
Fortunately, on March 21, 2017, Thomas B. Russell, Senior Judge of the United States District Court, dismissed the lawsuit with prejudice for lack of jurisdiction.
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/kentucky/kywdce/3:2016cv00006/96944/20/
In this instance it appears sanity and common sense has prevailed. Hopefully MBlanc's law of everything always getting worse (which does indeed seem to be an irrefutable force of nature) doesn't get ahead of this. I guess we will find out in the coming months/years.
M, in re easements...
(Easement and Right of Way is something that I most unfortunately know way too much about thanks to the criminal organization and publicly traded company known as AEP.)
You do realize than an easement is a ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (mutual assent, expressed by a valid offer and acceptance over time with consideration) allowing someone or some entity access to use and or enjoy some part of your existing property rights.
Usually these easements are for things like roads or driveways (ingress and egress over and along such land as defined in the easement contract)(whether public or private), power lines, pipelines, fiber optic lines, telephone lines, co2 lines (see the rice partners case) and to a lesser extent railroads or whatever other property right(s) (in whole or in part) that can be contracted away.
I highly doubt that Walmart has an easement with Mr. Florida man. If they do in fact have an easement (that they purchased from Mr. Florida Man) then Mr. Florida man would have no right to shoot down the drone provided that Walmart abided by the terms of the easement.
If you are referring to the (so called, informal) easement whereby ๐ด ๐๐๐ก๐๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐๐ข๐โ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ then this Walmart delivery drone was in obvious violation by flying too low. (As evidenced by Mr. Florida Man incapacitating the drone with a 9mm round casually fired from a hand gun.)(Unless Mr. Florida Man is an amazingly good and/or lucky shot.)
I do suppose (and agree) that if Walmart were to fly their drone over and along the existing public right of way (more commonly known as roads) that they could legally do this as everyone has a right to travel freely along the highways and bi-ways of this formerly great nation using any ordinary or usual conveyance of the day. (Which now includes drones.)(Though, it would also be appropriate to regulate and even register/license these delivery drones because they are operating in commerce. Because of the commerce clause.)(Don't blame me. Not my rules. I'm just a reporter here.)
It probably would be a good idea to require companies like Walmart and Amazon to buy easements over and along the routes that they plan to use for these delivery drones. They would be very reluctant to do this so this sort of regulation would likely force them to limit their delivery drone operations to the existing public right(s) of way (aka public roads).
It's a wild world out there...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za9LY6Q3EuI
So, uh, yeah. That's about all I have to say about that.
I hope you guys all have a great rest of the weekend! โฎ๏ธ
Achmed, in re:
๐โ๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ก๐ ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ค๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐, ๐ ๐ ๐ผ ๐๐๐'๐ก ๐๐๐๐ค ๐คโ๐๐ก โ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐...
Well, as far as I can tell, David Boggs filed a federal law suit against The Drone Slayer (his words, not mine) that asked the court to require Merideth to pay Boggs, "such equitable relief as it deems appropriate, including monetary damages, prejudgment interest, and the cost of filing this action."
Fortunately, on March 21, 2017, Thomas B. Russell, Senior Judge of the United States District Court, dismissed the lawsuit with prejudice for lack of jurisdiction.
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/kentucky/kywdce/3:2016cv00006/96944/20/
In this instance it appears sanity and common sense has prevailed. Hopefully MBlanc's law of everything always getting worse (which does indeed seem to be an irrefutable force of nature) doesn't get ahead of this. I guess we will find out in the coming months/years.
M, in re easements...
(Easement and Right of Way is something that I most unfortunately know way too much about thanks to the criminal organization and publicly traded company known as AEP.)
You do realize than an easement is a ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ (mutual assent, expressed by a valid offer and acceptance over time with consideration) allowing someone or some entity access to use and or enjoy some part of your existing property rights.
Usually these easements are for things like roads or driveways (ingress and egress over and along such land as defined in the easement contract)(whether public or private), power lines, pipelines, fiber optic lines, telephone lines, co2 lines (see the rice partners case) and to a lesser extent railroads or whatever other property right(s) (in whole or in part) that can be contracted away.
I highly doubt that Walmart has an easement with Mr. Florida man. If they do in fact have an easement (that they purchased from Mr. Florida Man) then Mr. Florida man would have no right to shoot down the drone provided that Walmart abided by the terms of the easement.
If you are referring to the (so called, informal) easement whereby ๐ด ๐๐๐ก๐๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐๐ข๐โ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ then this Walmart delivery drone was in obvious violation by flying too low. (As evidenced by Mr. Florida Man incapacitating the drone with a 9mm round casually fired from a hand gun.)(Unless Mr. Florida Man is an amazingly good and/or lucky shot.)
I do suppose (and agree) that if Walmart were to fly their drone over and along the existing public right of way (more commonly known as roads) that they could legally do this as everyone has a right to travel freely along the highways and bi-ways of this formerly great nation using any ordinary or usual conveyance of the day. (Which now includes drones.)(Though, it would also be appropriate to regulate and even register/license these delivery drones because they are operating in commerce. Because of the commerce clause.)(Don't blame me. Not my rules. I'm just a reporter here.)
It probably would be a good idea to require companies like Walmart and Amazon to buy easements over and along the routes that they plan to use for these delivery drones. They would be very reluctant to do this so this sort of regulation would likely force them to limit their delivery drone operations to the existing public right(s) of way (aka public roads).
It's a wild world out there...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za9LY6Q3EuI
So, uh, yeah. That's about all I have to say about that.
I hope you guys all have a great rest of the weekend! โฎ๏ธ
The Alarmist
Sunday - July 7th 2024 4:42AM MST
PS
As I mentioned, Mr. Mod, the FAA now defines all outdoor airspace to be navigable. The old 500/1,000 rules are not relevant with respect to drones, and the courts need to rein the FAA in, since the FAA used the so-called Chevron Deference to expand its remit and take private airspace.
As I mentioned, Mr. Mod, the FAA now defines all outdoor airspace to be navigable. The old 500/1,000 rules are not relevant with respect to drones, and the courts need to rein the FAA in, since the FAA used the so-called Chevron Deference to expand its remit and take private airspace.
M
Saturday - July 6th 2024 4:04PM MST
PS
"Easement" is usually to allow movement where it would otherwise be difficult to impossible for the ones using it to enjoy their property. E.g. for a plot of land that has no road access, there may be an easement to allow transport to and from the road. It doesn't allow someone to build on it.
A drone flying over someone's land is not the same thing as a drone hovering over it.
That drone supposedly was delivering stuff, so might fall under the easement. If it was flying ten feet above the ground though, I'm not sure the easement thing covers it. Among other things, the easement is supposed to infringe *minimally*.
"Easement" is usually to allow movement where it would otherwise be difficult to impossible for the ones using it to enjoy their property. E.g. for a plot of land that has no road access, there may be an easement to allow transport to and from the road. It doesn't allow someone to build on it.
A drone flying over someone's land is not the same thing as a drone hovering over it.
That drone supposedly was delivering stuff, so might fall under the easement. If it was flying ten feet above the ground though, I'm not sure the easement thing covers it. Among other things, the easement is supposed to infringe *minimally*.
Moderator
Saturday - July 6th 2024 1:30PM MST
PS: I meant to clarify earlier that the rules on aircraft minimum altitudes were for safety, but not necessarily anything involving property rights. 1,000 ft above ground level in "congested areas", 500 ft agl in non-congested, but I suppose not "sparsely populated", and, lastly that 500 from any man-made object in sparsely populated areas.
Moderator
Saturday - July 6th 2024 1:27PM MST
PS: Thanks for that story about the Kentucky Man v the drone, Mr. Smith. That was from '15. IMO and based on some law quoted by commenter MBlanc46, "things always get worse". It seems that people such as Bullitt County Judge Rebecca Ward are few an far between. She being a woman judge even, had me think that the following probably hit home and clinched* the case:
"He told NBC News at the time that the device was flying near his yard and he "had no way of knowing (if) it was a predator looking at my children.":
That may or may not have really been the case, but that's what a good lawyer would tell you to say.
As Mr. Hail was commenting under another recent post, we will have fewer and fewer people like this Judge Ward, people who often resist Statism. We are importing multitudes of people who have no such thoughts. They are perfectly happy being enforcers for The State.
* The NBC station site says the drone owner was going to appeal, so I don't know what happened...
"He told NBC News at the time that the device was flying near his yard and he "had no way of knowing (if) it was a predator looking at my children.":
That may or may not have really been the case, but that's what a good lawyer would tell you to say.
As Mr. Hail was commenting under another recent post, we will have fewer and fewer people like this Judge Ward, people who often resist Statism. We are importing multitudes of people who have no such thoughts. They are perfectly happy being enforcers for The State.
* The NBC station site says the drone owner was going to appeal, so I don't know what happened...
Adam Smith
Saturday - July 6th 2024 9:25AM MST
PS: Good morning, everyone!
M, ๐ผ ๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ก ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐โ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ โ๐ ๐ โ๐๐ก ๐๐ก ๐๐ก.
๐ด๐๐ค๐๐ฆ๐ ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ก ๐ค๐๐๐ โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข ๐๐๐ ๐ .
Always good advice, M. But maybe Mr. Florida Man did know what was behind the drone when he opened fire(?) and knew it was safe.(?) And, do keep in mind, He Didn't Miss. (Well, I'm guessing. I don't know how many rounds he fired at the drone before he hit it but if he had somehow endangered other people with stray bullets the news would probably make all sorts of squawking noises about it. I think...)
Mr. Blanc, as The Alarmist explained under common law landowners enjoyed quite a bit of airspace. Before the advent of aviation the airspace over one's property was considered part of your private property and it went all the way upto the heavens. (Your private airspace was unlimited.)
Only after the invention of commercial aviation was the FAA created and regulations were imposed. But landowners still enjoyed quite a bit of personal airspace...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐โ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐๐ค๐๐๐. ๐โ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐โ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ฆ 20๐กโ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ฆ. ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐ก โ๐๐โ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ค๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐.
๐โ๐ ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ด๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ด๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก: "๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ ๐บ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ " ๐๐๐ "๐ด ๐๐๐ก๐๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐๐ข๐โ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐."
๐โ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐ข๐๐(๐ ) ๐๐ก ๐คโ๐๐โ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐ก๐ "๐ ๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก" ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐. ๐ถ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ค ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก โ๐๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ โ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐๐ 500 ๐๐ก (150 ๐) ๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐ 360 ๐๐ก (110 ๐) ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐ ๐ก๐๐ข๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐โ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐.
Achmed provided a good explanation of what these rules mean in the real world when he wrote:
๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก 1,200' ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ 700' ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐กโ๐๐๐ . ๐โ๐๐๐'๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ 500 ๐๐ก ๐๐๐, ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐ "๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ก๐๐" ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐โ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐๐ 500 ๐๐ก ๐ด๐๐ด๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐. ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐, ๐ ๐ โ๐๐'๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ 50', ๐ ๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐๐ 500' ๐๐๐ธ๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐๐๐. ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐กโ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐โ.
That they are trying to do away with personal airspace entirely is not surprising as these filthy communists are trying to get rid of all forms of property, private or otherwise. (And they are relentless in their pursuit.) Hopefully the Florida court recognizes this man's right to privacy was violated by this drone flying over his property.
Which brings me to Mr. Kentucky Man...
Does anyone else remember the gentleman from Kentucky who (about a decade ago) found himself in a very similar situation after shooting down a drone in his back yard?
https://time.com/3977166/drone-shooting-down-kentucky/
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/31/428156902/dispute-emerges-over-drone-shot-down-by-kentucky-man
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ป. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ, 47, ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ป๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ค, ๐พ๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐-๐๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐โ๐๐๐โ๐๐๐. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ โ๐ ๐๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐ก๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ท๐ ๐ต ๐ฟ๐๐ข๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐.
โ๐๐๐กโ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐, โ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐,โ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ท๐ ๐ต. โ๐ผ๐ก ๐ค๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ, ๐๐๐ ๐ผ ๐ โ๐๐ก ๐๐ก ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฆ.โ
๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ค๐๐กโ ๐ก๐ค๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก. ๐โ๐ ๐๐ค๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐กโ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ $1800, ๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐โ๐ โ๐๐๐.
So there is some precedent involved here. The judge in Kentucky Man's case returned a sane and reasonable verdict...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/case-dismissed-against-william-h-merideth-kentucky-man-arrested-shooting-n452281
๐โ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐ ๐พ๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ค๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐โ๐๐๐'๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ป. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก-๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐คโ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ โ๐ โ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐ก๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ค๐ ๐ท๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ต๐๐๐๐ ' ๐๐๐๐๐.
โ๐ผ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐คโ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ค๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ, ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐ก ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐ฆ โ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐ก๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐,โ ๐ต๐ข๐๐๐๐ก๐ก ๐ถ๐๐ข๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐ฝ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ด๐๐ธ.
I guess time will tell if the residents of New York State South (aka Florida) enjoy the same rights as the citizens of the State of Kentucky. Hopefully common sense and sanity prevail.
๐ป๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐โ ๐ฆ๐๐ข โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ.
I wish you all a wonderful weekend.
Happy Saturday! โฎ๏ธ
M, ๐ผ ๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ก ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐โ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ โ๐ ๐ โ๐๐ก ๐๐ก ๐๐ก.
๐ด๐๐ค๐๐ฆ๐ ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐ก ๐ค๐๐๐ โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข ๐๐๐ ๐ .
Always good advice, M. But maybe Mr. Florida Man did know what was behind the drone when he opened fire(?) and knew it was safe.(?) And, do keep in mind, He Didn't Miss. (Well, I'm guessing. I don't know how many rounds he fired at the drone before he hit it but if he had somehow endangered other people with stray bullets the news would probably make all sorts of squawking noises about it. I think...)
Mr. Blanc, as The Alarmist explained under common law landowners enjoyed quite a bit of airspace. Before the advent of aviation the airspace over one's property was considered part of your private property and it went all the way upto the heavens. (Your private airspace was unlimited.)
Only after the invention of commercial aviation was the FAA created and regulations were imposed. But landowners still enjoyed quite a bit of personal airspace...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_rights
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐โ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐๐ค๐๐๐. ๐โ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐๐โ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ฆ 20๐กโ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ฆ. ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐ก โ๐๐โ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ค๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐.
๐โ๐ ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ด๐ฃ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ด๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก: "๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ ๐บ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ข๐ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ " ๐๐๐ "๐ด ๐๐๐ก๐๐ง๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ก๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐๐ข๐โ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐."
๐โ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ก๐๐ก๐ข๐๐(๐ ) ๐๐ก ๐คโ๐๐โ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐ก๐ "๐ ๐ข๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก" ๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐. ๐ถ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐ค ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก โ๐๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ โ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐๐ 500 ๐๐ก (150 ๐) ๐๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐ 360 ๐๐ก (110 ๐) ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐ข๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐ ๐ก๐๐ข๐๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐โ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐.
Achmed provided a good explanation of what these rules mean in the real world when he wrote:
๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐ข๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ก 1,200' ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ 700' ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐กโ๐๐๐ . ๐โ๐๐๐'๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ 500 ๐๐ก ๐๐๐, ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐ "๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐๐ก๐๐" ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐โ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐๐ 500 ๐๐ก ๐ด๐๐ด๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐. ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐, ๐ ๐ โ๐๐'๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ 50', ๐ ๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ ๐ก ๐๐ 500' ๐๐๐ธ๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐๐๐. ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ, ๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐กโ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐โ.
That they are trying to do away with personal airspace entirely is not surprising as these filthy communists are trying to get rid of all forms of property, private or otherwise. (And they are relentless in their pursuit.) Hopefully the Florida court recognizes this man's right to privacy was violated by this drone flying over his property.
Which brings me to Mr. Kentucky Man...
Does anyone else remember the gentleman from Kentucky who (about a decade ago) found himself in a very similar situation after shooting down a drone in his back yard?
https://time.com/3977166/drone-shooting-down-kentucky/
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/31/428156902/dispute-emerges-over-drone-shot-down-by-kentucky-man
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ป. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ, 47, ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ป๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ค, ๐พ๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐-๐๐๐ข๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐โ๐๐๐โ๐๐๐. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ โ๐ ๐๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐ก๐๐ข๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ท๐ ๐ต ๐ฟ๐๐ข๐๐ ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐.
โ๐๐๐กโ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ข๐ก๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐, โ๐๐๐ ๐๐ก ๐๐๐๐,โ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ท๐ ๐ต. โ๐ผ๐ก ๐ค๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ, ๐๐๐ ๐ผ ๐ โ๐๐ก ๐๐ก ๐๐ข๐ก ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฆ.โ
๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ค๐๐กโ ๐ก๐ค๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ , ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก. ๐โ๐ ๐๐ค๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐ค๐๐๐กโ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ $1800, ๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ ๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐โ๐ โ๐๐๐.
So there is some precedent involved here. The judge in Kentucky Man's case returned a sane and reasonable verdict...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/case-dismissed-against-william-h-merideth-kentucky-man-arrested-shooting-n452281
๐โ๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก ๐ ๐พ๐๐๐ก๐ข๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐คโ๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐๐๐ก๐๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ค๐ โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐โ๐๐๐'๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ.
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ป. ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐กโ ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ก-๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐ ๐โ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐คโ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐๐๐ โ๐ โ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐ก๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก ๐๐๐ค๐ ๐ท๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐ต๐๐๐๐ ' ๐๐๐๐๐.
โ๐ผ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐๐ฆ ๐กโ๐๐ก โ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ค๐๐ โ๐๐ฃ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ฆ๐คโ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ค๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐ก๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐โ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ฆ, ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐๐ก ๐ค๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ฃ๐๐๐ฆ ๐๐๐ ๐กโ๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐ฆ โ๐๐ ๐กโ๐ ๐๐๐โ๐ก ๐ก๐ ๐ โ๐๐๐ก ๐กโ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐,โ ๐ต๐ข๐๐๐๐ก๐ก ๐ถ๐๐ข๐๐ก๐ฆ ๐ฝ๐ข๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ก๐ ๐๐ต๐ถ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ด๐๐ธ.
I guess time will tell if the residents of New York State South (aka Florida) enjoy the same rights as the citizens of the State of Kentucky. Hopefully common sense and sanity prevail.
๐ป๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐ก๐ข๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ก๐๐๐ ๐๐ฃ๐๐ ๐คโ๐๐โ ๐ฆ๐๐ข โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ฆ.
I wish you all a wonderful weekend.
Happy Saturday! โฎ๏ธ
Moderator
Saturday - July 6th 2024 8:29AM MST
PS: Mr. Blanc, there is a lot to that question, though I was being someone facetious.
The FAA has all sorts of rules, but they cover "navigable airspace". The term "controlled airspace" means something different than most people think. One can fly under controlled airspace at 1,200' above the ground in most place and 700' above it in others. There's a rule about being over 500 ft agl, but in "sparsely populated" areas one much just be 500 ft AWAY from any obstacle. Over a lake, for example, a ship's mast might stick up 50', so theoretically, one must be 500' OVER that or off to the side. Nobody, but nobody, does the math or cares very much.
Drones that fly under 400 agl (not counting in areas very close - defined clearly in the FAA regs - to towered airports or on approaches to all runways) are not under these navigable airspace rules. Criminal-law-wise, they can fly anywhere else.
What Alarmist said about property is what I've also read. The civil law on property rights hasn't kept up with drones. What if a drone flies 10 ft above your lawn? I think some of this stuff has got to be nailed down. In the meantime, I hope to see more of the actions of Florida man here, to push the law and to push back against Orwellian behavior. (Anyway, what privacy do we REALLY have when we have IEspionage recording devices in our pockets?)
The FAA has all sorts of rules, but they cover "navigable airspace". The term "controlled airspace" means something different than most people think. One can fly under controlled airspace at 1,200' above the ground in most place and 700' above it in others. There's a rule about being over 500 ft agl, but in "sparsely populated" areas one much just be 500 ft AWAY from any obstacle. Over a lake, for example, a ship's mast might stick up 50', so theoretically, one must be 500' OVER that or off to the side. Nobody, but nobody, does the math or cares very much.
Drones that fly under 400 agl (not counting in areas very close - defined clearly in the FAA regs - to towered airports or on approaches to all runways) are not under these navigable airspace rules. Criminal-law-wise, they can fly anywhere else.
What Alarmist said about property is what I've also read. The civil law on property rights hasn't kept up with drones. What if a drone flies 10 ft above your lawn? I think some of this stuff has got to be nailed down. In the meantime, I hope to see more of the actions of Florida man here, to push the law and to push back against Orwellian behavior. (Anyway, what privacy do we REALLY have when we have IEspionage recording devices in our pockets?)
Moderator
Saturday - July 6th 2024 8:20AM MST
PS: Alarmist, the base to short final turn at one airport I've been to a bunch put one was over a golf course. Running the throttle back and forth didn't really worry anyone. So, I'd start screwing with the prop controls. The engine RPMs going up and down like that got some attention, haha. Fore!!
M, that's something the GP commenters had big discussions about. True, you'd better watch the background. I assumed he was in a fairly rural area. What comes up, must come down, but not nearly as fast* (doesn't mean it can't kill someone).
* Firstly, there's air drag, but more of a difference is whether the bullet will start a tumble rather than keep its spin.
M, that's something the GP commenters had big discussions about. True, you'd better watch the background. I assumed he was in a fairly rural area. What comes up, must come down, but not nearly as fast* (doesn't mean it can't kill someone).
* Firstly, there's air drag, but more of a difference is whether the bullet will start a tumble rather than keep its spin.
The Alarmist
Saturday - July 6th 2024 7:35AM MST
PS
With the advent of UAVs for commercial purposes, the FAA has taken the regulatory position that โnavigable airspaceโ is pretty much anything outdoors, e.g. they assert there is no such thing as private airspace outside of oneโs home. This is at odds with earlier common law that defined private airspace as that which a landowner could use or occupy; it was certainly some point well above the gound.
Anyway, weโll see if this now rises through the courts to apply the recent ruling on the so-called โChevron Deferenceโ to test the FAAโs regulatory overreach.
With the advent of UAVs for commercial purposes, the FAA has taken the regulatory position that โnavigable airspaceโ is pretty much anything outdoors, e.g. they assert there is no such thing as private airspace outside of oneโs home. This is at odds with earlier common law that defined private airspace as that which a landowner could use or occupy; it was certainly some point well above the gound.
Anyway, weโll see if this now rises through the courts to apply the recent ruling on the so-called โChevron Deferenceโ to test the FAAโs regulatory overreach.
MBlanc46
Saturday - July 6th 2024 7:02AM MST
PS His airspace?
M
Saturday - July 6th 2024 5:14AM MST
PS
I do wonder what was behind the drone when he shot at it.
Always check for what will happen if you miss.
I do wonder what was behind the drone when he shot at it.
Always check for what will happen if you miss.
The Alarmist
Saturday - July 6th 2024 3:51AM MST
PS
I used to use a practice area east of Orlando to do training flights, and it is over a mix of marsh and cattle ranches. So when you pull the power to simulate an engine out and set into a spiral to lose altitude over the spot you designated as possibly safe for a forced landing, your idling engine backfires as the wind flows over the propeller, and as you look out the window you occasionally see frightened cattle fanning out from your target. Good thing I never encountered Florida Man during those sessions, but there were no houses in those parts in those days.
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I used to use a practice area east of Orlando to do training flights, and it is over a mix of marsh and cattle ranches. So when you pull the power to simulate an engine out and set into a spiral to lose altitude over the spot you designated as possibly safe for a forced landing, your idling engine backfires as the wind flows over the propeller, and as you look out the window you occasionally see frightened cattle fanning out from your target. Good thing I never encountered Florida Man during those sessions, but there were no houses in those parts in those days.
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Adam Smith
Friday - July 5th 2024 10:41PM MST
PS: Howdy...
I saw Filter in concert, once, oh so long ago. (~25 years)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_discography
I don't know anything about their newer stuff. Newer meaning anything later than 1999. So I'm trying to download their discography, but so far it's slow going. I might have to download album by album if the torrent doesn't start picking up speed. I should probably just let it run for a few days and see what happens.(?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrMHkeKWd78
As for Florida Man, well, I agree with him. I don't think these companies (and especially the cops) should be flying drones over our houses, yards, etc. I think it is fair game shooting them down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlGdPrhRvBA
*** Added Bonus! ***
I noticed these in the list of videos on the right hand side of the youtube page. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zK9iGPwBhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qn6yteF78
โฎ๏ธ
I saw Filter in concert, once, oh so long ago. (~25 years)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_discography
I don't know anything about their newer stuff. Newer meaning anything later than 1999. So I'm trying to download their discography, but so far it's slow going. I might have to download album by album if the torrent doesn't start picking up speed. I should probably just let it run for a few days and see what happens.(?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrMHkeKWd78
As for Florida Man, well, I agree with him. I don't think these companies (and especially the cops) should be flying drones over our houses, yards, etc. I think it is fair game shooting them down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlGdPrhRvBA
*** Added Bonus! ***
I noticed these in the list of videos on the right hand side of the youtube page. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zK9iGPwBhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qn6yteF78
โฎ๏ธ