Posted On: Friday - July 19th 2024 1:56PM MST
In Topics: Elections '16 - '24 Trump Zhou Bai Dien
We'll put 3 separate small points into this one post that all pertain to this '24 election.
First, what exactly is wrong with this guy?
This time, the question is not asked rhetorically. I was trying to imagine Bai Dien's brain as he made this goof twice. Perhaps he's had the word "battle" in his head, with all the talk about "battling" this evil orange enemy before he becomes Hitler 2.0. Maybe not though, as "battle" and "ballot" aren't that far apart in pronunciation. However, Bai Dien said this twice.
Some expert in Linguistics and also Neurology could probably figure out exactly what is wrong with JoeMentia's mind here from just this clip. The (p)Resident* was somewhat clued in that he had said the wrong word, but his mind and mouth stayed in that same groove even so, a second later. The part of his mind involved in speech control failed twice in a row. I remember my son, at about 4 y/o, trying to pronounce "locomotive". He couldn't really get the consonants, so he'd say "mo-co-mo-tow". But he was 4. Bai Dien is 81 2/3... the cycle of life. No fun would be made of that here, had he not been a lying Totalitarian asshole his whole life.
Last I heard, Dark Brandon's got the Kung Flu. So much for the power of the vax, and, looking at the video again, talk about your comorbidities!
I did not get to see Donald Trump's speech at the Republican National Convention. (I may seek it out later though.) That very near death experience he just had has been described in detail all over by anyone who doesn't think the whole thing was faked (Whaaaa??) He can shake it off - he did VERY WELL at that - but he can't shrug it off, as with less well-documented things that have happened to some of us. If he hadn't turned his head right then to tell the crowd something about some old data in his border invasion graphs, that bullet would have gone right through his head.
What effect might this have on Trump's big ego? OK, all these high-level politicians are like that, is what I've heard. Yes, but here's a guy who would get a lot more done if he'd not make everything about himself. He does care about his country - better than the rest of that crowd up in there - but if it's between looking bad, being made fun of, losing face, etc. vs. harm to this country, he'd pick the latter. I've seen this during those years '17 - '21.
Trump is a spring chicken compared to JoeMentia. He's just turned 78. He really seems in great shape, in a comparison to almost all 78 y/o's, not to mention the current (p)Resident. (You'd get a "Divide by Zero!" error if you do the math.) People think they'll go on forever. However, anyone who just came within a split-second or a couple of inches of dying just last weekend, due to sheer chance, may very well consider that he won't be here forever.
I don't mean specifically that there's another attempt coming. (I don't know - there may very well be.) Being 78 even though pretty fit does not mean that one couldn't die of natural causes soon, and it be out of the ordinary. He may be thinking of this more since Saturday.
I am hopeful that this event has made a change to Trump's ego. I hope he realizes that what happens to this country is more important than what happens to him.
Trump has picked Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as the GOP VP candidate. We'll have more to say about Mr. Vance later. Let me just bring up something that I've tried to explain to people recently.
"This helps with the Ohio vote." Ohio IS one of those battlebox, heh, ballotground is what I meant to write, "Rust Belt" States. It's got 17 electoral votes, 2 more than northwestern neighbor Michigan and 2 less than eastern neighbor Pennsylvania. So, you got that going for you with J.D. Vance.
That's something the strategists would say, but I say that is ancient thinking and of no consequence today. This is not the 20th century (or 19th, for that matter). This country is greatly polarized! That J.D. Vance is a Son of Ohio means exactly Jack Squat to some purple-haired snowflake QUERTY-studies student born right there in Columbus... or even, Middletown, Mr. Vance's hometown. She's not only not voting for Trump anyway, she still has half a mind to shoot him... having first to learn how to operate a gun...
I wish that Trump had picked Ron DeSantis, he being a fighter who gets things done without the big ego thing. However, DeSantis' being selected VP candidate would change nothing for those 30 big EV's of the Sunshine State. Florida's probably not a great example, thankfully, but my point is that Americans have moved around to where there's no big State loyalties. (We used to have that real diversity.) The idea before was "He's one of us!" "Us" doesn't mean so much anymore. A Conservative in North Dakota will not be butt-sore that "North Dakota's Own!" Governor Burgum isn't the VP choice.
Then, there was Nikki Haley, who didn't do so very well as Presidential, not VP, candidate in her own State of South Carolina. OK, I've made my point. Political strategists, things are different now. Try to keep up.
* Thanks, Alarmist.
Comments:
The Alarmist
Saturday - July 20th 2024 12:36PM MST
PS
I heard one commenter remark about Bide, โWho would have thought that there is someone who can make Trump look kooler, hipper, and younger?โ
Death Match in the Battle Box would be the perfect way to end this saga.
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I heard one commenter remark about Bide, โWho would have thought that there is someone who can make Trump look kooler, hipper, and younger?โ
Death Match in the Battle Box would be the perfect way to end this saga.
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Moderator
Saturday - July 20th 2024 11:26AM MST
PS: "In one corner, we have an 81 2/3 year old scumbag with a memory problem. In the other corner, we have a 78 year old bullshitter with an ear problem."
Haha!
Let's make it a tag-team match with the VP's allowed to tag in. This could be something Kamala finally might excel at. Plus, ... mud ...
The 1st one to die, American wins! And the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...
Haha!
Let's make it a tag-team match with the VP's allowed to tag in. This could be something Kamala finally might excel at. Plus, ... mud ...
The 1st one to die, American wins! And the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...
Adam Smith
Saturday - July 20th 2024 10:20AM MST
PS: Good day, gentlemen,
The BattleBoxโข, eh?
This might be the first good idea JoeMentia has ever had. (It's certainly the best idea he's ever had.) And I rather like the idea...
In one corner, we have an 81 2/3 year old scumbag with a memory problem.
In the other corner, we have a 78 year old bullshitter with an ear problem.
I say, put the two old bastards in a cage and let them fight.
The first one to die loses. โฎ๏ธ
The BattleBoxโข, eh?
This might be the first good idea JoeMentia has ever had. (It's certainly the best idea he's ever had.) And I rather like the idea...
In one corner, we have an 81 2/3 year old scumbag with a memory problem.
In the other corner, we have a 78 year old bullshitter with an ear problem.
I say, put the two old bastards in a cage and let them fight.
The first one to die loses. โฎ๏ธ
Moderator
Saturday - July 20th 2024 7:16AM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I appreciate the work of Charles Murray, and that he has helped promote the writing of Steve Sailer. Otherwise, I really don't think that much of Charles Murray - he's not much of a fighter.
Regarding Operation Wetback, you are quite right that beating the 1 million or whatever deportations done would not be enough... not even 10 fold would be.* I've heard Trump himself claim that 18 million have come during the Bai Dien/Mayorkas invasion surge. Some say 10, some 12 - As always, VDare has people who understand details, the asylees, the "gotaways" (well, by definition you don't know that number, but again, they know their stuff at VDare), etc. They go with 12.
Well, there were somewhere from 20 to 30 million already here. They can't get a pass. So we're talking 30 to nearly 50 million illegals or BS "legal" app aliens here. It CAN be done, but I think nobody has the will. Trump only has the will until he realizes a lot of people won't like him anymore, such as the "good people, these guy are good people" illegals themselves.
You need someone in charge who does understand numbers and details, but also you need guys who understand how to stop the people that will immediately jump in and try to halt all of the plans.
That's kind of funny, in fact, that Trump's bloviating about how "I will deport more people than anyone has in the history of America" is actually not good enough this time! Not by 1/10th.
I agree with your last paragraph there. Thanks for the comment.
* BTW, I don't know how many self-deportations happened during/after Ike' s program, but the same thing would happen now too. VDare writers have written much about this. You don't have to deport them all. If the program is serious, and one's next parking ticket or drunk & disorderly charge may result in one leaving the family behind (hopefully, though, taking them) within the week, your average guy with his wits about him would rather "walk before they make me run".**
Either way, ike or Trump, there'd be some growing ratio of self-deportees to deportees as the program progresses. Alas, I feel like this is just day-dreaming.
** Yes, Dieter, the Stones, and that was in a related post already.
Regarding Operation Wetback, you are quite right that beating the 1 million or whatever deportations done would not be enough... not even 10 fold would be.* I've heard Trump himself claim that 18 million have come during the Bai Dien/Mayorkas invasion surge. Some say 10, some 12 - As always, VDare has people who understand details, the asylees, the "gotaways" (well, by definition you don't know that number, but again, they know their stuff at VDare), etc. They go with 12.
Well, there were somewhere from 20 to 30 million already here. They can't get a pass. So we're talking 30 to nearly 50 million illegals or BS "legal" app aliens here. It CAN be done, but I think nobody has the will. Trump only has the will until he realizes a lot of people won't like him anymore, such as the "good people, these guy are good people" illegals themselves.
You need someone in charge who does understand numbers and details, but also you need guys who understand how to stop the people that will immediately jump in and try to halt all of the plans.
That's kind of funny, in fact, that Trump's bloviating about how "I will deport more people than anyone has in the history of America" is actually not good enough this time! Not by 1/10th.
I agree with your last paragraph there. Thanks for the comment.
* BTW, I don't know how many self-deportations happened during/after Ike' s program, but the same thing would happen now too. VDare writers have written much about this. You don't have to deport them all. If the program is serious, and one's next parking ticket or drunk & disorderly charge may result in one leaving the family behind (hopefully, though, taking them) within the week, your average guy with his wits about him would rather "walk before they make me run".**
Either way, ike or Trump, there'd be some growing ratio of self-deportees to deportees as the program progresses. Alas, I feel like this is just day-dreaming.
** Yes, Dieter, the Stones, and that was in a related post already.
Moderator
Saturday - July 20th 2024 6:58AM MST
PS: Dieter, do you, or does VF, have something else to write about the stuff Joe Rogan said that WAS out there, BS in your opinion? I'm saying this as someone who's only watched a few minutes of him over the years and did not watch the show you refer to here. What was Rogan way off about, is what I'm asking, not rhetorically.
As for his points that you listed, he forgot one. It goes along with "Why did the Secret Service guys not shoot Mr. Crook a bit earlier?" Even barring doing that - let's say it's some dude on the roof with no gun visible but still acting suspiciously, such as just crawling* on the roof to begin with, don't you, as a SS agent, call it in? "Get him down!" or some code phrase.
They are usually on the ultra-cautious side. That they were anything but, should tell us that it's likely not just D.I.E.-bred incompetence that nearly got Trump assassinated. Should I say "helped get him assassinated"?
* Were they to shoot some poor bastard sitting still who just got up there to have a good view, that'd be the kind of military-cop excess that's I detest (and agree with the Reason Mag. folks on). It could have been me. I was up in a small tree - dogwood, I think, watching Ronald Reagan speak about 60-75 yards away. Otherwise, I couldn't have seen anything. Then, I wasn't carrying an AR on my back either ... I didn't even own a gun then... talk about your deprived individuals...
As for his points that you listed, he forgot one. It goes along with "Why did the Secret Service guys not shoot Mr. Crook a bit earlier?" Even barring doing that - let's say it's some dude on the roof with no gun visible but still acting suspiciously, such as just crawling* on the roof to begin with, don't you, as a SS agent, call it in? "Get him down!" or some code phrase.
They are usually on the ultra-cautious side. That they were anything but, should tell us that it's likely not just D.I.E.-bred incompetence that nearly got Trump assassinated. Should I say "helped get him assassinated"?
* Were they to shoot some poor bastard sitting still who just got up there to have a good view, that'd be the kind of military-cop excess that's I detest (and agree with the Reason Mag. folks on). It could have been me. I was up in a small tree - dogwood, I think, watching Ronald Reagan speak about 60-75 yards away. Otherwise, I couldn't have seen anything. Then, I wasn't carrying an AR on my back either ... I didn't even own a gun then... talk about your deprived individuals...
Moderator
Saturday - July 20th 2024 6:48AM MST
PS: Re Alarmist's 1st comment:
"We're on a mission from God!" says Elwood Blues in that heavy Chicago accent with Jake Blues, his brother, having seen the light in a Black! church with the help of chronic criminal preacher James Brown of Augusta, Georgia, agreeing
That is for those few readers who are deprived... depraved ... something...
"We're on a mission from God!" says Elwood Blues in that heavy Chicago accent with Jake Blues, his brother, having seen the light in a Black! church with the help of chronic criminal preacher James Brown of Augusta, Georgia, agreeing
That is for those few readers who are deprived... depraved ... something...
The Alarmist
Saturday - July 20th 2024 6:10AM MST
PS
A million illegal invaders a year sent home would be a good start. Chances are that starting with even thousands would induce enough of the militatnts to take violently to the streets, at which point all those good Americans who stock ammo and spend too much time cleaning and talking about their guns might themselves organise a little action to take back their communities. Wanna bet the National Guard of various states might stand down and munch on popcorn?
The MK-Uktra wind-up toy patsy didnโt fire the shot that grazed Trumpus Magnus; that came from the profi on another high structure, who also blew out the patsyโs head.
JD Vance is someoneโs butt-boy. His assigned wife is his beard. The American right, like Americaโs tech companies, is slowly being taken over by dot-Indians.
A million illegal invaders a year sent home would be a good start. Chances are that starting with even thousands would induce enough of the militatnts to take violently to the streets, at which point all those good Americans who stock ammo and spend too much time cleaning and talking about their guns might themselves organise a little action to take back their communities. Wanna bet the National Guard of various states might stand down and munch on popcorn?
The MK-Uktra wind-up toy patsy didnโt fire the shot that grazed Trumpus Magnus; that came from the profi on another high structure, who also blew out the patsyโs head.
JD Vance is someoneโs butt-boy. His assigned wife is his beard. The American right, like Americaโs tech companies, is slowly being taken over by dot-Indians.
Hail
Saturday - July 20th 2024 4:57AM MST
PS
The DeSantis RNC-2024 speech was one of the few that definitively said: "We will not accept 'immigrants' that don't benefit us."
As usual Trump claimed he would do a deportation program involving millions of Third Worlders that would exceed Eisenhower's deportations of Mexicans.
Trump is, in important ways, himself a kind of "low-information voter." The scale of the problem and the numbers now involved mean that narrowly exceeding the 1950s Operation Wetback numbers would do very little.
Also as usual with Trump, it seemed to be all about himself (stressing how it was HE would do the world's biggest (fill in the blank); whereas the DeSantis speech actually as about the issue: Get the Migrants Out.
And thirdly, also as usual, someone distributed these "Mass Deportations Now!" placards on the convention floor.
The regular Trump supporters that you still see -- although his own coalition is also IMO a "dumbed down version" of what it had been in 2015-18 -- these kinds of scenes least make it clear what Christopher Caldwell aptly says about the entire Trump phenomenon: It's never been about Trump (no matter what the man himself thinks); "Trump" has always been really a referendum-question: Do you think the USA is corrupt against White Middle-America? The implicit referendum: 'Yes, the system is corrupt' is Trump; 'No, the system is not corrupt' is anti-Trump.
The DeSantis RNC-2024 speech was one of the few that definitively said: "We will not accept 'immigrants' that don't benefit us."
As usual Trump claimed he would do a deportation program involving millions of Third Worlders that would exceed Eisenhower's deportations of Mexicans.
Trump is, in important ways, himself a kind of "low-information voter." The scale of the problem and the numbers now involved mean that narrowly exceeding the 1950s Operation Wetback numbers would do very little.
Also as usual with Trump, it seemed to be all about himself (stressing how it was HE would do the world's biggest (fill in the blank); whereas the DeSantis speech actually as about the issue: Get the Migrants Out.
And thirdly, also as usual, someone distributed these "Mass Deportations Now!" placards on the convention floor.
The regular Trump supporters that you still see -- although his own coalition is also IMO a "dumbed down version" of what it had been in 2015-18 -- these kinds of scenes least make it clear what Christopher Caldwell aptly says about the entire Trump phenomenon: It's never been about Trump (no matter what the man himself thinks); "Trump" has always been really a referendum-question: Do you think the USA is corrupt against White Middle-America? The implicit referendum: 'Yes, the system is corrupt' is Trump; 'No, the system is not corrupt' is anti-Trump.
Hail
Saturday - July 20th 2024 4:48AM MST
PS
Charles Murray had an interesting comment on J. D. Vance. He decided some years ago that he likes him, for what he represents; something like that. But he wishes very much that Vance had never become a politician at all.
Charles Murray had an interesting comment on J. D. Vance. He decided some years ago that he likes him, for what he represents; something like that. But he wishes very much that Vance had never become a politician at all.
Dieter Kief
Saturday - July 20th 2024 2:09AM MST
PS
OT 70% -
Joe Rogan: Trump-Attack a Deep-State-Conspiracy to get rid of Trump
Joe Rogan and his guest show the same low standards of professionalism while talking about the attack as The Secret Service did, unfortunately, during the attack. Lowering the Joe Rogan's Experience' standards for rational discourse allows Rogan and his guest to cook up their conspiracy-theory about the shooting: Haha, isn't that all perfectly clear? - No, it isn't. Your cooking it up. They're trying to handle the attack of the lonesome math-nerd and severely ill and possibly mistreated Thomas Crooks, the son of- two psychiatric counselors. Sad and disorienting story alltogether which Joe Rogan negelects - to go the easy conspiracy way instead. Paranoic Dope-Head reasoning. Not good. Not fun. Not responsible.
vigilant Fox detaisl Joe Raogan's - dopey logic:
The Vigilant Fox ๐ฆ
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@VigilantFox
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concludes, โThey definitely wanted him [Crooks] to k*ll Trump.โJoe Rogan Raises SERIOUS Questions About the Trump Assassination Attempt "They have organized assassinations before. And when they organize assassinations, it looks just like that. And when they organize assassinations, one of the things they like to do is have some f*cking loser kill the president and then they kill the f*cking loser, and that's a wrap." Joe Rogan questions why: โข โThey saw him on the fucking roof, and they didn't engage. They saw him on the roof with a rifle.โ โข โThey wouldn't put Secret Service agents on the roofโ because the โsloped roofโ thing is not a legitimate excuse. โข โThey let him [Crooks] get off three shots.โ โข โThey had such poor security guarding him [Trump].โ โข โ[They] can not get in that kid's phoneโ when โI know you read my text messages.โ With all these anomalies unfolding,@JoeRogan
OT 70% -
Joe Rogan: Trump-Attack a Deep-State-Conspiracy to get rid of Trump
Joe Rogan and his guest show the same low standards of professionalism while talking about the attack as The Secret Service did, unfortunately, during the attack. Lowering the Joe Rogan's Experience' standards for rational discourse allows Rogan and his guest to cook up their conspiracy-theory about the shooting: Haha, isn't that all perfectly clear? - No, it isn't. Your cooking it up. They're trying to handle the attack of the lonesome math-nerd and severely ill and possibly mistreated Thomas Crooks, the son of- two psychiatric counselors. Sad and disorienting story alltogether which Joe Rogan negelects - to go the easy conspiracy way instead. Paranoic Dope-Head reasoning. Not good. Not fun. Not responsible.
vigilant Fox detaisl Joe Raogan's - dopey logic:
The Vigilant Fox ๐ฆ
๐ท
@VigilantFox
Abonnieren
concludes, โThey definitely wanted him [Crooks] to k*ll Trump.โJoe Rogan Raises SERIOUS Questions About the Trump Assassination Attempt "They have organized assassinations before. And when they organize assassinations, it looks just like that. And when they organize assassinations, one of the things they like to do is have some f*cking loser kill the president and then they kill the f*cking loser, and that's a wrap." Joe Rogan questions why: โข โThey saw him on the fucking roof, and they didn't engage. They saw him on the roof with a rifle.โ โข โThey wouldn't put Secret Service agents on the roofโ because the โsloped roofโ thing is not a legitimate excuse. โข โThey let him [Crooks] get off three shots.โ โข โThey had such poor security guarding him [Trump].โ โข โ[They] can not get in that kid's phoneโ when โI know you read my text messages.โ With all these anomalies unfolding,@JoeRogan
The Alarmist
Friday - July 19th 2024 4:58PM MST
PS
I believe this is where you plug in a clip from the Blues Brothers ....
The short version:
https://youtu.be/MKZSqd5Y8nA
The long version:
https://youtu.be/GQCkaGnTs9s
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I believe this is where you plug in a clip from the Blues Brothers ....
The short version:
https://youtu.be/MKZSqd5Y8nA
The long version:
https://youtu.be/GQCkaGnTs9s
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Maybe they should put a bear and an eagle in the cage with them? You know, to make it more interesting...
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/10/world/time-too-painful-to-remember.html
(Anyway...)
Joe Biden and Donald Trump
A Fight to the Death in The Battle Box!
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So much winning! โฎ๏ธ