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teve Sailer [01:15:00] And I'm.
Steve Sailer [01:15:01] The.
Steve Sailer [01:15:02] Competent.
Steve Sailer [01:15:03] Well-educated guy who reads all the fine print.
Steve Sailer [01:15:06] And I can I can implement some of these. And that didn't seem like a bad pitch. But just one.
Steve Sailer [01:15:15] Didn't go over at all. I, you know, as soon as the Democrats started. ] So do you think that that's what it was? It was the, you know, persecution of Trump?
Steve Sailer [01:15:49] Yeah. It seemed like that.
Steve Sailer [01:15:51] Belonged to DeSantis. And basically Republicans went back to Trump and went like, well, if the Democrats are going to do that, then we're going to stand by Trump.
Steve Sailer [01:16:00] And, you know, if the, the, the.
Steve Sailer [01:16:04] Arresting.
Steve Sailer [01:16:06] A.
Steve Sailer [01:16:06] Major candidate.
Steve Sailer [01:16:08] Is un-American and it's it's totally shameful in the United States history. And the. Democrats didn't get in the way and go like, oh. Let's let's not do that. They let local politicians, you know, kind of run amok, like this New York case. And and so they got the they got the nominee, they wanted, Donald Trump, but now they're now they're real worried that they're going to get the president. They don't want Donald Trump. So we shall see.
Tucker [01:16:43] So you're the reason that you've emerged from your cave in Tora Bora? Yeah. Coming to the sorry, is because you've got a book.
Steve Sailer [01:16:55] Yeah, it's a-
Tucker [01:16:56] Beautiful looking book. And it's collected, journalism, 1973 to 2023. You don't look that old. But it's called noticing. What does that mean?
Steve Sailer [01:17:10] Yeah. I'll hold it up here. I mean, it's it's a slogan that I took from George Orwell, who said that to to see what's in front of one's nose takes a constant effort. And I'm trying to make it easier for people to notice the realities that they see around.
Steve Sailer [01:17:34] Them and to, to to understand that what.
Steve Sailer [01:17:40] They see with their own lying eyes in their daily life.
Steve Sailer [01:17:45] Actually validated by the best of the social sciences, and that they're, that there aren't these two.
Steve Sailer [01:17:54] Different realms of existence, this kind of tawdry, subliminal one where we make decisions about what neighborhoods our family should live in and what's what are good schools for the kids. And then this, this higher, more.
Steve Sailer [01:18:12] The realm of the science, the world of data.
Steve Sailer [01:18:15] Yeah. The world data that proves.
Steve Sailer [01:18:18] That all.
Steve Sailer [01:18:19] Those things you notice in your daily life can't possibly be true, because that would be a stereotype. And my view is not all connected. There's just one reality out there. It goes from your personal anecdotes to what people might dismisses and data to the data, and it all tells pretty much the same story.
Tucker [01:18:42] So but why is it I mean, we don't need to get into Covid, but I just know from the very beginning I never knew anyone. I know people died of Covid. I never knew anyone who died of Covid. I did know someone who died from the vaccine and a number of other people who were injured pretty conclusively by the vaccine. That doesn't mean that more people were injured by the vaccine, died of Covid. I'm not saying that. But then I started to ask around, you know, do you know anyone who died of Covid? You know anyone? Like, actually no one. You have you had dinner with anyone who later died of Covid. Do you know anyone was injured by the vaccine? And I don't think I've ever met a single person who didn't have the same answer I did. Whether that's reality or not, I still don't know. But I do know there's been such an effort to tell me that I'm crazy for noticing that.
Steve Sailer [01:19:23] Yeah. When one.
Steve Sailer [01:19:24] Thing I used to do was go through the list.
Steve Sailer [01:19:28] Of.
Steve Sailer [01:19:29] On Wikipedia, prominent people who have died of Covid.
Steve Sailer [01:19:33] And the thing that I.
Steve Sailer [01:19:35] Noticed about it.
Steve Sailer [01:19:37] Was that they were almost all people who were no.
Steve Sailer [01:19:43] Longer in their.
Steve Sailer [01:19:43] Primes. And that.
Steve Sailer [01:19:47] Oh, like I saw, like, go baseball pitcher, Hall of Famer Tom Seaver has died at age 74 of Covid. And then I looked up a little more about him and like, well, you know. He probably would had a good couple decades going to old timers games and stuff like that. But then it turned out that he dropped out of public life the year before because he had dementia.
Steve Sailer [01:20:12] And.
Tucker [01:20:13] Parkinson's.
Steve Sailer [01:20:35] Toward the last decade of their lives and weren't no longer in the public.
Steve Sailer [01:20:39] Eye. And, so.
Steve Sailer [01:20:42] That's that that sort of helps explain the thesis that, yeah, there was a lot of Covid deaths, the antithesis that like, you know, it's not like anybody. I was like met and I knew at work drop dead of Covid. And then you get this synthesis of like.
Steve Sailer [01:20:58] Oh yeah, it's it.
Steve Sailer [01:21:00] Mostly, killed off people who were. Who were probably close to retirement, retired in ill health from other things and so on.
Tucker [01:21:13] So I think what's interesting is the point of social science is that there was a point was to bring the principles of science, of the scientific method to bear on the world just right around us and to make it clear what we were actually seeing. Yeah, I think, yeah. And but it seems like it's use, at least over the past several years, has been to do the opposite, which is to obscure what we're actually seeing, living, experiencing and tell us a story that's not true.
Steve Sailer [01:21:40] Yeah.
Tucker [01:21:41] Yeah. Is that my imagination?
Steve Sailer [01:21:42] No, it's I mean, the issue.
Steve Sailer [01:21:45] Is that so much data has piled.
Steve Sailer [01:21:47] Up, that you can.
Steve Sailer [01:21:50] We can now answer quite a few questions that were beyond our capability beforehand.
Steve Sailer [01:21:58] I mean, and the.
Steve Sailer [01:21:59] Answers we keep getting.
Steve Sailer [01:22:01] Are.
Steve Sailer [01:22:02] The politically are generally politically incorrect ones that were anticipated by the bad people. The Charles Murray's and James Q Wilson's in the 21st in the 20th century. So, for example, we have.
Steve Sailer [01:22:17] An.
Steve Sailer [01:22:17] Enormous amount of data from DNA.
Steve Sailer [01:22:21] That.
Steve Sailer [01:22:21] Tells us about our racial ancestry. And what have we discovered in that in this century? Did the, the conventional wisdom that race does not biologically exist be proven?
Steve Sailer [01:22:36] No, of course not.
Steve Sailer [01:22:37] You can you can call up Ancestry.com or 23 and me and they'll tell you your race to three, three digits.
Steve Sailer [01:22:47] You know.
Steve Sailer [01:22:48] They'll tell you, you know, if you're if you're Jewish, they'll tell you, you know, you're 49.8% Ashkenazi. Other data is piling up. There's a Harvard economist named Raj Chetty who's.
Steve Sailer [01:23:02] Done phenomenal work talking.
Steve Sailer [01:23:05] Government bureaucracies into letting him work with totally confidential data, like, like the tax returns of everybody in the country. And so he can do studies that nobody had ever had the hotspot dream before, that they never get their hands on the data. So, for example.
Steve Sailer [01:23:26] He gets.
Steve Sailer [01:23:27] He track 21 million Americans across 30 years of their lives from he looked at how much money their parents made in the 1990s.
Steve Sailer [01:23:38] And then he looked at things.
Steve Sailer [01:23:40] Like, were they in jail on census day, January, April 1st 19, 2010, when they were about 30 years old.
Steve Sailer [01:23:49] And so then he could plot out what's what are the odds of, of a.
Steve Sailer [01:23:57] Man being in jail based on.
Steve Sailer [01:23:59] How poor.
Steve Sailer [01:24:00] Rich his parents were? And not surprisingly.
Steve Sailer [01:24:03] Poor, poor.
Steve Sailer [01:24:04] Guys who grew up poor go to jail.
Steve Sailer [01:24:06] A lot more. But he could.
Steve Sailer [01:24:09] Also answer using data from the Census Bureau what the race was, all 21 million of these people. And he. Discovered? Yeah. In general, blacks who had the exact same.
Steve Sailer [01:24:21] Income.
Steve Sailer [01:24:22] As whites growing up as kids in the 90s. But in 2000, in 2010, were in jail 3 to 10 times more often than whites who were their exact peers in terms of family income. And this this is like, wow, I never expected somebody to be able to come up with that. And it goes, yeah.
Steve Sailer [01:24:43] So when.
Steve Sailer [01:24:44] People wonder why are blacks in jail more.
Steve Sailer [01:24:48] Often?
Steve Sailer [01:24:49] Is it is it poverty? And poverty plays a role. But even without poverty, you take it all the way at the highest level.
Steve Sailer [01:24:59] Blacks at the.
Steve Sailer [01:25:00] At the highest percentile. Blacks go to jail about ten times as often as the richest whites.
Steve Sailer [01:25:07] So we're.
Steve Sailer [01:25:08] Able to answer all sorts of social science questions these days.
Steve Sailer [01:25:13] But.
Steve Sailer [01:25:15] Nobody likes the answers they're getting.
Steve Sailer [01:25:17] Well, it.
Tucker [01:25:18] Didn't seem like when we finally unraveled the human genome. Which was right around the time the bell curve came out. Ish. Yeah. That's when the whole conversation got shut down.
Steve Sailer [01:25:29] Yeah.
Tucker [01:25:30] Maybe we had too much information.
Steve Sailer [01:25:32] Yeah. What? What happened?
Steve Sailer [01:25:37] At a ceremony that Bill Clinton put on in the presidential rose, garden in 2000 for the Human Genome Project. They just sort of made progress decoding a single genome, which was mostly that of entrepreneur Craig Venter, who helped out enormously.
Steve Sailer [01:25:59] And.
Steve Sailer [01:25:59] Craig got up and made a speech that was exactly what the zeitgeist wanted to hear. He said, we've looked at the human genome.
Steve Sailer [01:26:08] Or his human genome, and we.
Steve Sailer [01:26:11] Discovered.
Steve Sailer [01:26:12] The one thing you.
Steve Sailer [01:26:13] Can't see in it is race. There's no difference whatsoever genetically.
Steve Sailer [01:26:19] Between different genomes.
Steve Sailer [01:26:23] In terms of racial ancestry. Well, then, within 3 or 4 or five years.
Steve Sailer [01:26:29] The.
Steve Sailer [01:26:29] Evidence was piling up is like, no, actually, you can tell exactly what the ancestry of people is.
Steve Sailer [01:26:36] Became a sizable.
Steve Sailer [01:26:38] Business very quickly.
Steve Sailer [01:26:40] But as far as I can tell.
Steve Sailer [01:26:42] A huge fraction of the population remembers hearing that the science has proven that race doesn't exist genetically, and they've never rethought it since that 2000. Speech by Venter standing next to Bill Clinton.
Steve Sailer [01:27:03] So people people want.
Steve Sailer [01:27:05] To believe some things. They want to believe that the science has proven all of this, this anti-racist.
Steve Sailer [01:27:13] Dogmas that they get told.
Steve Sailer [01:27:15] And they just sort of ignore that. Now it's actually moving in the other direction, and it's time that we it's time that we think realistically about.
Steve Sailer [01:27:24] You know, what.
Steve Sailer [01:27:25] The data is telling us.
Steve Sailer [01:27:28] And.
Steve Sailer [01:27:29] You know, personally, I don't think it's the end of the world by any means.
Steve Sailer [01:27:33] And I think.
Steve Sailer [01:27:33] We can we can all get along pretty well.
Steve Sailer [01:27:35] Knowing, knowing the.
Steve Sailer [01:27:37] Realities. But a lot of people are just terrified of them and, and basically want to lie about it.
Tucker [01:27:44] I mean, the way that previous civilizations held together in the face of knowledge of genetic and racial differences, which are obviously real, but they weren't always at war with themselves. And one of the ways you did that was by believing in a religious doctrine that said God created everybody. Therefore, despite whatever differences we have, we are all of equal value without that overlay which we no longer have. How do you keep a society together in the in the face of these realities?
Steve Sailer [01:28:14] Yeah. I mean.
Steve Sailer [01:28:16] The Democrats have been.
Steve Sailer [01:28:17] Moving toward the.
Steve Sailer [01:28:23] You know, tour toward a sort of Nazi type solution of having a scapegoat who's who unites everybody else by being the locus of evil, namely, whites or.
Steve Sailer [01:28:37] You know.
Steve Sailer [01:28:38] The way the Democratic.
Steve Sailer [01:28:39] Works, it's.
Steve Sailer [01:28:40] All sorts of circles within circles. So you get more Pokémon points for being nonwhite. You get diversity points for being a woman. You get more diversity points if you were born a man, etc., etc..
Steve Sailer [01:28:58] But yeah.
Steve Sailer [01:28:58] Unifying around the scapegoat population.
Steve Sailer [01:29:02] That does not have a good track record.
Tucker [01:29:05] What happens in the end?
Steve Sailer [01:29:07] What happens in the end? We don't know.
Steve Sailer [01:29:11] Does does it get worse.
Steve Sailer [01:29:14] Or one one of the things we see maybe. Conventional wisdom and scoffing. And saying, you. You guys are just making this up. It's not true. You're just saying it so you can get DEI. Money and, you know, we. One thing ambitious people are doing and you've written about this is just denying being white. Yeah. And the flight from white. What is that. Has a lot of different dimensions. It's people it's it's. Kids applying to college and remembering their grandmother was. Their Irish grandmother was born in point in Cyprus before she went back to Ireland...
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