PS

Re: Sailer Unitarian-Universalist church and why gangs of gruff-looking smokers are so often seen, by him, hanging around the churchyard, I am glad to be able to tell you that your guess was right:

https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2024/11/12/revisiting-the-sailer-strategy-after-the-trump-2024-victory-whites-cast-80-of-trumps-votes-but-some-call-the-sailer-strategy-obsolete-why/#comment-52108

This micro-bite from Steve Sailer's personal life gives insight into Sailer and his thinking and influences. So it's bigger than just the punchline about who the gangs of smoking loiterers were. I say "personal life" in the sense of something Sailer saw personally around his own neighborhood.

Sailer has posted many times that he has lived in or near Sherman Oaks much of his life, which, as far as I know, is and remains a fairly good neighborhood near Hollywood and just north of the small "Santa Monica Mountains," north of which we get the place known to those in the know as "The Valley," which from derives the "Valley Girl" of the 1980s.

This Sailer anecdote is a reminder that he, Sailer, himself lives quite close to Hollywood. The very word "Hollywood" seems, to outsiders who are not from Los Angeles or Southern California, to be something like a disembodied place floating out somewhere in the ether, an "idea" and not a place. But it is a physical place, or a series of them that to at extent transcend the so-named Hollywood (and "North Hollywood").

The social- and norm-influencing effects of Hollywood, in the physical sense, ripple outward. Not just digitally through the media-products they create (and which toss, like catapults of old, onto the townspeople yonder). They also must affect people physically in the spaces where Hollywood-connected people hang around. Here is Sailer in the presence of some men he expects to be men with Hollywood-related aspirations. Some of the persistent criticisms of Sailer by his own long-loyal fans relate to their (the readers') considerable less attention to, or interest in, or influence by, Hollywood.

PS: Good morning, Achmed,

Yeah that video pretty well sums up the insanity of the time in a neat little 11 minute package. I (mostly) found the video amusing, but I can also see how it could really piss someone off. Most of the people featured in the video deserve a ride on the Smash-O-Matic™...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfbC4D4GSM8


I didn't realize that they added the hyphen to Hartsfield airport so recently. (2003) Here's a little moar quick ATL history...

• The first flight into Candler Field was on September 15, 1926, a Florida Airways mail plane flying from Jacksonville, Florida. In May 1928, Pitcairn Aviation began service to Atlanta, followed in June 1930 by Delta Air Service.

• Candler Field's first control tower opened March 1939. The March 1939 Official Aviation Guide shows fourteen weekday airline departures: ten Eastern and four Delta.

• 𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫, 𝟏𝟗𝟒𝟎 Atlanta was declared an air base by the U.S. Government. Candler Field would double in size during World War II.

• 𝟏𝟗𝟒𝟏 Delta Air Services moved company headquarters from Monroe, Louisiana, to Atlanta.

• 𝟏𝟗𝟒𝟐 In July, because of a dispute with the post office, the City reaffirmed the name as Atlanta Municipal Airport because officials could not find the original paperwork. Hartsfield later was quoted as saying that he clearly remembered the City officially changing the name in 1929.

• 𝟏𝟗𝟒𝟐 A record 1,700 takeoffs and landings in a single day was set and the Airport was named the nation’s busiest in terms of flight operation.

• 𝟏𝟗𝟓𝟕 Work begins on new terminal to help alleviate congestion. Atlanta was the busiest airport in the country with more than 2 million passengers that year. Between noon and 2 p.m. each day, Atlanta became the busiest airport in the world.

• 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟏𝟗𝟕𝟏 William B. Hartsfield dies on Feb. 22 and on Feb. 28, what would have been Hartsfield’s 81st birthday, the Airport name is changed to William B. Hartsfield Atlanta Airport.

• 𝐉𝐮𝐥𝐲 𝟏, 𝟏𝟗𝟕𝟏 The Airport’s name is again changed, this time to William B. Hartsfield Atlanta International Airport, when Eastern Airlines introduces flights to Mexico and Montego Bay, the Airport’s first international service.

And since it will forever be Hartsfield I'll leave the history there. If anyone is interested they can read the rest...

https://www.atl.com/about-atl/history-of-atl

Or, just for fun, we can pretend that Hart's Field is named after the Hart family...

https://tinyurl.com/t74uk34p
(Zoom out.)

A little more info...
https://tinyurl.com/yhvh65k5
https://www.google.com/search?q=Hart's+Field
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/flat-rock-and-hart-cemeteries

Happy Saturday! ☮️

PS: Good morning, Mr. Smith. "Hartsfield - Jackson? Pssshawww! Who is this Jackson of which you speak? I have an idea it's not Andrew, so that airport is always just (William Berry) Hartsfield to me. Good on you for high-tailing it out of there.

Yes, South Carolinians grow lots and lots of peaches too.

I watched the whole video from your most recent comment. Going along with what M said above, if you forgot what you were mad about re: The Panicfest, this will jog your memory, big time.

PS: Well, this seems appropriate...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3yU5Z2adI

Cheers! ☮️

PS: Good evening, Mr. Moderator,

Mrs. Smith was singing the song like this today...

🎶 Goin' to Atlanta, gonna eat a lot of pizza... 🎶
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GCrzjVdmSg

Which works too. Until you get to the 🎶 Pizza comes from a can, it was put there by a man 🎶 part of the song. (I can't even imagine how horrible canned pizza might be.)

𝐼 ℎ𝑜𝑝𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑗𝑜𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝐴𝑡𝑙𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑎 𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠.

Truth be told, I didn't stop for peaches in Atlanta today*. After I dropped Mrs. Smith at the security checkpoint at Hartsfield-Jackson I got back in the car and got le heck out of there. I didn't stop until I hit Dawsonville. Other than the occasional airport run, I've got no business in Atlanta.

* It's almost impossible to find a Georgia peach in Georgia (unless you grow your own) because they export most of them. I can, however, get South Carolina peaches. Next best thing I suppose. South Carolina peaches are much tastier than those flavorless peaches that come from California. Those aren't even worth buying.

"Kung Flu PanicFest - Forgive and Forget?" Oh yes. I remember.

Good times! ☮️

PS: Mr. Hail, in case you're still reading here:

I left you a comment under your most recent article on "Hail to You" asking a question about one paywalled stevesailer.net post. Who were the people he saw outside the UU Church? I was guessing members of AA about to attend a meeting.

PS: Good evening, Mr. Smith. I hope you are enjoying those Atlanta peaches. I'd totally forgotten about that mid-1990s song by The Presidents of the United State. Good video too!

I'd written about the Emily Oster article of your 1st link. It came back to me, as I had to go ahead and read an Atlantic article - not for the timid. You'll remember the post, I'm sure.

https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=2434

"Kung Flu PanicFest - Forgive and Forget?"

Is Ralph Baric someone you know personally, Tarheel? You never know though - you'll make it back to Chapel Hill when California tumbles into the sea. Nobody forgets Steely Dan lyrics!

PS: Yep, Ralph Baric at UNC is culpable. I'm never going back to my old school.

PS: Adam, gotta go, but I'll check out your links later on, on a break. I'm thinking of the one guy we all know and like, mentioned by Mr. Hail. Steve Sailer has said he doesn't like making predictions, as he doesn't like to be wrong. The PanicFest was something in all our faces and lives, for which one had to have some opinion. I think Mr. Sailer got snowed by the BS like Trump did.

Neither has said they were wrong directly. Mr. Sailer has kind of let it go, but also given me the impression that he's bringing up a few of his anti-Panic opinions on occasion, but leaving the rest. Why rile up everyone, and no, he does not like to be wrong - especially as a pundit that has lot influence, in a good way, on other issues. On the vax, I don't know if anyone's gotten him started lately. I think he doesn't want to hear about it, as the pile of evidence that this gene therapy is a bad thing is getting larger.

PS: "A minor detail and I can't dig out the link now. 2014-7, it was illegal for the US federal government to pay for gain of function research. So they outsourced it to China and played a shell game with the payments."

Good point - one I may have read about but forgot, M. Thank you. Those shell games are easy enough for governments to do.

This post was already long, but the idea of outsourcing work (and also supplies) to potential enemies is one I was going to mention too. It's like how we buy military hardware, parts at least, but drones, too, from China. If it came to blows, or, hopefully, only threats, what are we going to do, call for a cessation of hostilities while we wait for the container ships with our stuff?

PS: "DJT's situation was unenviable, to be sure." Right. The Lyin' Press was going to vilify him either way. Nowadays, making a mountain out of a molehill will never get you fired (in the corporate world), but the calling a molehill out as a molehill very well might. Trump leaned toward "being safe". (Yeah, that's like, "Well, no, our climate models are not perfect, and they don't match reality at all, but still, better safe than sorry! So, we need to control the energy economy." I swear I've heard this very thing that I paraphrased here.)

"Those who wish to defend Trump, and there remain many who do, would say it's not fair to blame him for the Panic. True. But what would an alternate-history look like, in which Trump had relentlessly pursued a Sweden-like or a Florida-like line all along?"

Though it was used for ill means, I have said during that time that I was glad to see the exercise of Federalism by the various States. It was unfortunately more like:

Gov. of Michigan: "We have a curfew, and we're closing down all the gyms tomorrow."

Gov. of Wherever: "Oh, yeah, Watch this! Hold my beer, we have a curfew, and we're closing down the gyms AND the beaches!".

This Federalism had a good side, as we saw in Florida with a good Governor and GOP Legislature.

Where did Trump stand in all this? He couldn't control these States. Who should have, BTW? Their people and their local pols. Any place where an "emergency" went on longer than that (usual) 30 days, ought to have had lots of pushback and disobedience. We sure didn't see enough of that.

As the guy behind the bully pulpit, Trump did a piss-poor job. He's not a numbers guy at all, didn't have a chance (as I wrote above) to exercise common-sense in the matter, and lastly, he really doesn't have solid principles. If he HAD said, curfews are wrong or closing down businesses is wrong, it'd be based on practicality and political support rather than the US Constitution. Regarding said principles or a lack of them, I think Mr. Sailer thinks similarly.

PS: Mr. Hail, regarding Trump and the PanicFest, a little out of order:

As far as the jab goes, Trump was his usual boastful self, probably proclaiming that "no one has ever pushed the Gov't to come out with a vaccine THIS FAST since the founding of this country!!" ;-} I will give a few reasons for his support for the vax:

1) As with many of his generation, the Gov't was your friend, a whole lot more than now, when he was young. (I have someone in my family, smart enough to learn, who just always had this attitude.. right through the Kung Flu jab...

2) He has never been that close, at least opinion-wise, with the hard-core "low-brow" (in Steve Sailer parlance) right, folks such as MTG and Matt Gaetz. These folks have a few opinions about conspiracies that I don't agree with, yet being right about a lot. Until Trump got together with RFK, Jr. - MUCH later than all this - I don't think he would have cared much for the other anti-vax theories, such as with mercury causing autism, etc. (I think there is definitely something there, myself.)

3) Well, again, he didn't do much thinking about what was really going on with the PanicFest, and he's a braggart, so he touted the vax as his doing.

I don't think he's ever said he's wrong on this either.

Next, I've got to give him a break on his understanding, or lack thereof, of the PanicFest. He had already been in the White House for 3 years. It's a different world. While we have family, friends, neighbors, our workplaces, whatever, where we could see "the facts on the ground", Trump didn't have much of that. He was bombarded with the massive amounts of BS data - does anyone here remember how duckduckgo/bing showed thematic maps of "cases", with colored circles for each State, that were on the page before you even searched for anything?!

Right about the time they closed the schools, maybe a week before, I already had an idea: Wait. Kids might have been kept home here and there for possible Kung Flu symptoms, if any single one had been hospitalized, we'd all know it. Oh, but, as someone suggested, they are sending them home so the teachers don't get it, and it gets spread even more. The teachers were mostly young, and, ditto, if any had been hospitalized, we'd have heard. (I imagine a few went home with symptoms - the tests weren't even in use much - cause, well, there's stuff to do at home, and nobody asked any questions - free time off.)

There are lots of older people in the neighborhood, 70 and older. I never heard one thing about ANYONE in the area dying.

So, without that common sense info, if you had just listened to those "experts" and looked at cases on the maps, you might fall for it.

That's no excuse for Trump agreeing with the Totalitarian measures, however, a different subject ...

PS: Good morning, gentlemen,

Mr. Hail. Steve and the panickers will never apologize. As far as they're concerned they have nothing to apologize for. They were right, we were wrong. And we are still wrong. End of story. They graciously offered us an olive branch and we declined their oh so generous offer...

https://archive.ph/ozjE5
https://afru.com/unvaccinated-silence/

I know I learned a few lessons from this thing. Important lessons about human nature. Lessons that I will not forget.

Interesting times... ☮️

🎶 Goin' to Atalanta, gonna eat a lot of peaches... 🎶
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GCrzjVdmSg

☮️

PS
"Fauci and crew, who funded the Chapel Hill research, would have gotten things done quicker and cheaper in Wuhan."

A minor detail and I can't dig out the link now. 2014-7, it was illegal for the US federal government to pay for gain of function research. So they outsourced it to China and played a shell game with the payments.

So not just cheaper; they were so desperate to do gain of function that they paid potential enemies under the table to do it.

We don't hate Fauci nearly enough.

PS

Were we right?

Yes.

It was clear that the Corona-Panickers were wrong. It was clear they were wrong either "all along," or by some point between early April 2020 and maybe mid-May 2020, when enough good data was available for rational-thinking people to judge the Panic's tenets false.

The laggards who came around to the Anti-Panic side anytime after May 2020 were not really paying close attention. This isn't their fault, totally, as most people don't pay close attention to most things beyond their immediate worlds. ANd they were subject to a hostile, pro-Panic informational apparatus' power, which, at its core, cannot be distinguished from a coup-d'etat junta from a religious cult, which ruled by emergency decree.

By some point by or before mid-May 2020, most tenets of the Corona-Panic could be shown false outright (on any reasonably judgement of evidence; there is always uncertainty but a sane man doesn't make decisions of state based on worst-possible-scenario thinking, unless receiving instructions from supernatural forces, imagining oneself a Noah of 2020, and the construction and maintenance of the Corona-Panic-monster the "Ark" of the day). Whatever tenets the hardcore-Panic camp could still defend, by some point in May 2020 already, really had giant-with-feet-of-clay problems going on. A vast Panic-house built on a foundation of sand. It's interesting that this is right when the Race Panic began after the death of a Black criminal drug-addict in Minnesota. And of course the two forces joined up and became symbiotic.

Those who still have sought to defend the Panic even after it mostly unraveled in 2022, those who you'll still hear meekly or weakly defend it even now in winter 2024-25, the five-year mark of this shameful episode in Western history, will say "We did what we had to do, given a lack of information and the possibility of a virus-apocalypse with millions of deaths." The Anti-Panic camp could say this: those kinds of extreme measures, if normal(ized), would've gotten everyone killed years ago, be it in nuclear war or some other way.

The Panic in the West was a powerful social-force that lasted 2 to 2.5 years, from its earliest emergence to its mostly falling away like the mania and apocalypse-cult that it was. It would've done so much sooner (more like 2 months) had it not been politicized steadily during spring 2020. The real anger a lot of the Anti-Panic side had, therefore, was against the politicization of the thing. Those who used the Panic for their own purposes ruled the society for a time, madmen and revolutionaries who relished their junta-like powers, and New Age religious-fanatics similar to UFO-cult believers. The whole thing of course includes the strangest election in U.S. history held in 2020. But the damage touched every institution, formal and informal, in the whole society, and the final story on the damage of the unnecessary vaccines (for 80-90% of the population) is yet untold. All completely unnecessary.

But.....

Has the degree to which the hardline Anti-Panic position was RIGHT, has it ever been, well, acknowledged? I don't think it has.

Atrangely, people mostly have forgotten the whole thing, no longer talk about it, nor want to talk or think about it. It's been suggested millions feel real shame at the thing, so this is tacit acknowledgement of how duped they were, how shamefully they behaved. But if it's never publicly acknowledged, the vague narrative may win that more resembled the Pro-Panic side's narratives than the correct ones.

Steve Sailer has not posted anything related to the Corona-Panic in a long time, and when he does touch on 2020 he ignores the role of the Panic in the racial-chaos and what was, in effect, an "anti-White pogrom." He has also never written anything of substance saying that he was wrong, that I know of, except for cryptic hints here and there.

And as for Trump, as usual he has no beliefs that I can discern. Trump's political career is inextricably intertwined with his showbiz career; he is an entertainer before being a politician or "statesman." He failed in 2020 to slay the Panic-monster, acquiesced to it, allowed a Corona-junta around him to run much of the show, and demagogued on "Covid" plenty. Trump has always simply a vessel for the "hopes and aspirations" (to borrow Kamala's katchphrase) of millions.

DJT's situation was unenviable, to be sure. Those who wish to defend Trump, and there remain many who do, would say it's not fair to blame him for the Panic. True. But what would an alternate-history look like, in which Trump had relentlessly pursued a Sweden-like or a Florida-like line all along? In the non-hypothetical real world, that's impossible, because Trump wasn't "interested in the numbers," in the way DeSantis reportedly was, studying the matter along with the other nucleus of the emerging Anti-Panic coalition and coming to the correct conclusions, evidence-based, by some point in May 2020 at least, which is what stands behind his drive to open Florida (and which is why "they" began demonizing him, including that well-connected clown with his DeathSantis costume parading around for media cameras).

There are signs that in 2025 many key or high-profile players from the Anti-Panic side of 2020-2021 will end up in or near formal-power-wielding government posts, including RFK Jr. and Jay Battachariya. (Scott Atlas ought to be among them but he has sworn never to return to Washington.) This might be the most-hopeful thing about the situation.

But meanwhile the major damage has been done and its after-effects linger. I fear "we" haven't truly learned the lessons after all.

PS: "ex-wapo-journalist-taylor-lorenz-claims-people-who-dont-wear-masks-are-raw-dogging-the-air" Ha! Nice way to put it. Taylor Lorenz may be stupid, but she's pretty humorous about it, at least.

Peak Stupidity Dictionary says:

"Long Covid" - (n) a term used in the corporate world to indicate one has used up his accumulated sick bank but would like additional paid time off.

Yes, those Trucker were good people - I was hoping a real revolt against the Totalitarians would spread. However, they did get some of them to back off, I think being afraid that effort could have gone world-wide. Then, afterwards, the Castreau Gov't had them punsished harshly, debanked, whatever, to discourage le otres in le future.

Luckily I don't remember François Legault.

As for your speculation on the reason for the whole thing, I do remember something about "repo swaps", with some bad financial things coming. I never got in my head what a repo swap is, but, yeah, they put in $4 Trillion of that liquidity, in America alone. There'll be financial hell to pay - can't put it off forever...

PS: Good afternoon, Mr. Moderator,

https://i.ibb.co/Z8YpRsV/izhar-draws-corona-chan.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/dMTfSNq/toilet-paper-vs-corona-chan.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/YjdbznM/coronachan.jpg

Almost five years, eh? Damn how the time flies.

I've noticed an uptick in recent (November and December 2024) pro-facediaper stories. I was hopeful that the world had left that all nonsense behind. Many of these maskers will mask forever...

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/when-do-you-have-to-wear-a-mask
https://www.johnmuirhealth.com/patients-and-visitors/mask-policy.html
https://share.upmc.com/2024/12/should-you-wear-a-facemask/
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/masks-on-planes-holiday-travel

https://nypost.com/2024/12/02/us-news/ex-wapo-journalist-taylor-lorenz-claims-people-who-dont-wear-masks-are-raw-dogging-the-air/

And last but not least, we have this little gem from Sam Williams...

"Sam Williams is a Disability Advocate. He is a Brown autistic person, who has been disabled with #LongCovid since March 2020. He writes about his and others' experience of Long Covid at the intersection of Race, Disability and Neurodivergence."

https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2024/11/28/covid-mask/

Thank God the Canadian truckers put an end to the madness when they did. Too bad some of these people long for those good old days when they were talking about putting the anti-vaxxers in quarantine camps and/or using Moderna dart guns to vax them. Remember when François Legault was openly advocating charging the anti-vaxxers fines and extra taxes to encourage them to take the poison needle.

https://i.ibb.co/VNdYfXm/Daily-Stupid-53482.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/TWb6xCw/Daily-Stupid-53643.jpg
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/unvaccinated-health-contribution-quebec-1.6311054

Good times!

I am of the opinion that the whole bioweapon release and subsequent panicfest was a pre-planned event whose main purpose was to give the criminals masquerading as "government" an excuse to inject some liquidity into the imploding ponzi scheme economy. It also gave them a wonderful opportunity to try out some interesting social experiments on different populations around the globe. To see just how far they could push people and see what the reaction(s) would be.

Some precedents have been set. The "governments" of the world and a subset of the population are jonesing for a return to the new normal world of face diapers, digital ID and arbitrary rules and lockdowns.

It has been nice having a reprieve but unfortunately, we are not out of the woods yet. ☮️