Press the Meat: 'Tard v 'Tard


Posted On: Tuesday - December 10th 2024 12:14AM MST
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That's now a total of 4 and a half hours of my life I'll never get back, wasted watching Donald Trump as interviewed in a 3 hour Joe Rogan bull(shit) session and yesterday as interviewed by one Kristen Welker on Meet the Press. Yes, it's still on, having come a long way (down) in it's long history. In 1959, one May Craig of Maine interviewed Fidel Castro on that show, and 8 years earlier, in his last of his 5 appearances there, Senator Joe McCarthy, worried about an assassination, held a pistol on his lap during the interview. As Peak Stupidity pined here, "How much better would our political history have been if McCarthy had been on 8 years later, on the same episode with Fidel Castro!"

I only mentioned the Joe Rogan interview in comments here. I don't recommend the reader watch it, unless he can think of absolutely nothing constructive to do for 3 solid hours. Yes, in it Trump did prove that he's a decent guy and that he is not senile or a weird-ass batty creep, like his election opponent and her/his partner. He did mention this country's problems... Now, what got me to watch the hour and quarter Kristen Welker interview were a couple of clips on ZeroHedge. I should have left it there.



Why 'Tard v 'Tard? I don't think we're ALL the way to Idiocracy, but we have come a long way, Scrote Baby. I find it exasperating to watch the President-elect and some alleged Big-TV "journalist" talk over political plans as if the President is King. Constitutional issues were mentioned on only one point, and they both botched it there. More to this 'tard point, the level of discussion was, let's say, more than half way to Idiocracy from a discussion between President Reagan and a Bill Buckley or George Will type, or any of the talking head shows (Meet the Press, Firing Line, Face the Nation, Washington Week in Review, etc.*) of yesteryear.

I am already used to Trump's "weave" (as per he and Joe Rogan), going off the subject, usually to say that he knows this and that person. Here in this interview, he also bobbed and weaved around like a typical politician. On only a few points did he actually settle on "This is what we're gonna do, period."

Trump was exasperating, and Welker was hostile, as Trump noted right to her face at one point. (I liked that part!) Her questions were that of a prosecutor trying to pin down a perp, her tone was scolding, and even her face was hostile. Kristen Weller came off as Nikki Hailey in the middle of one of her female, you know, things...

The most existential issue for America, the immigration invasion, was discussed, or I should say, Trump was grilled and scolded regarding his position thereon. As I'd suspected, Trump doesn't really have, or doesn't act like he has, any problem with large-scale immigration, so long as it's legal. He does at least, see the very important "Birthright Citizenship" (or "Bug-out Bab", as Peak Stupidity dubs it), "process" as the scam that it is. That's good. What was bad here was the way it was discussed.

I don't expect Trump to have all the details in his head as lawyerly Ann Coulter does. He doesn't have details about much at all in his head, as he is so much more a people person. Still, I'm sure he's gotten a clue on this issue from people who do know details, such as Steven Miller. Prosecutor , errr, interviewer Weller sounded retarded as she lied "The Constitution says, quote, if you were born here, you're a citizen." I can't recite all of Amendment XIV by heart myself, but couldn't Trump have at least called her out, as in "No, you are lying. That's not the whole sentence", bringing up "subject to the jurisdiction of."? He could have brought up that this Amendment had nothing to do with immigration when it was written - it was about freed slaves, or "recently-formerly-enslaved people". (You can't go wrong talking about the plight of the enslaved in America.)

Besides the general stupidity, what I really didn't like about Trump's testimony answers is that he was more politician-like than what I'm used to from seeing him in rallies. He seemed to be on the right side of the points, but then, after being grilled a while he'd go to "well, we'll look into this" and "we're going to look into every one" (yeah, right, for 30 million deportations?) and seeming to back off and put the responsibility for things Miss Weller wasn't happy with on his underlings. Even on pardoning the J6 he was a squish, and, back to immigration, he's backing off again on deporting the "Dreamers".

One can take the black pill or the white pill to interpret all this:

The black pill would have one wondering about Trump's statement (I've heard this before too) that, to paraphrase "Two of the best issues for my campaign have been immigration and groceries so that's what I'm working on".

Let me digress on the "groceries" thing. He's going to bring prices down, he says. I am tired of this stupidity of not being able to distinguish between the value and the rate of change. Nobody's bringing down average prices. (The FED hasn't started burning Treasury bonds or something.) The best people could hope for is a decrease in the RATE of price increases. Trump is pretty clueless on the cause of inflation to begin with, so I don't expect much, and I wouldn't even if he did have a clue.

Back to THE issue, is it that Trump is only all over it because that's what satisfies the MAGA crowd? Is he backtracking already on his promises? Does Trump want to be liked - not by the Lying Press (out of the question!), but by the masses that watch this stuff - more than he cares about America?

The white pill would have me figuring that, no, Trump obviously cares about stopping the immigration invasion. His being mealy-mouthed in the interview, as per a friend, is likely a tactic to keep him from getting in more distracting legal trouble. Perhaps he even had lawyers telling him to stay mealy-mouthed. The "interview" was, after all, more like a deposition.

Here's a little big more criticism. I am very pleased to see that Trump will have an effect on the D.I.E. stupidity. Why then, was he politically correct, feminism-wise twice? He kept talking about the "people" rather than "men" killed in the Ukraine - Russia war**. It's always the men that do the dying. Then, when talking about his Secret Service agents, he felt he had to add on "Secret Service women" too.

A couple of points from near the end. Trump did not back down on his contention that the '20 election was stolen. In '24, it was "Too big to steal", he told Miss Weller. I agree. It's all about him though, always. As he was asked about the huge political divide in this country, and put it on Bai Dien***, he brought up the lawfare. He's not wrong. However, I expected something plural at the end of his sentence, I really did, but, nope, he only complained against the lawfare against himself. I didn't expect him to bring up VDare, as great as that would have been - a bridge too far, I guess. What about the imprisonment of Peter Navarro or Steve Bannon, though? Are they not additional good examples of this Banana Republicanism? It's all about Trump though.

I'd have liked to see Trump tell Kristen Weller, in answer to her questions, that this is what we are going to do, whether you all like it or not. I'm hoping the mealy-mouthedness was in the cause of avoiding distracting questions in the future and in not giving the game away. Trump does care about America. However, he cares even more about Trump. These 2 are in pretty good alignment this time around, so, yes, I'm still hopeful...

This interview, though? Yeah, it's a waste of time. We'll see about all this come late January.




* One of these has this great classical music theme song that I get in my head every time I think of these talking heads. "Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was!"

** Trump was a squish on this issue too. He talked about the money going to the Ukraine but not about getting out. I hope this too was just a feign as he makes his deals.

*** Of course the divisiveness goes back at least to ร˜bโ˜ญma.

Comments:
Moderator
Thursday - December 12th 2024 8:24AM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I did read your comments under Alarmist's substack post (in addition to the whole post, of course). I see that you've been writing a lot on stevesailer.net. I see many of the same people from TUR. Most of the commenters on ss.net are, I think.)

I'd like it if you explain more about this you wrote:

"I've written before about the differences with Unz.com/isteve, and how most people clearly engage differently with Substack, which is subject to "Algorithm" power and many other factors that create quite a different experience."

This last part is something I don't understand.

"(BTW, there is still no re-direct from Unz.com/peakstupidity to PeakStupidity.com despite the overwhelmingness of the logic of doing so)."

Do you mean that there OUGHT to be a link from TUR to here? I don't think Ron Unz likes me at all.
Hail
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 8:21PM MST
PS

The bully pulpit of Peak Stupidity (dot com) can also be used for comments to The Alarmist's space commentary.

I left a comment at "Fly Me to the Moon"
https://alarmist.substack.com/p/fly-me-to-the-moon

Lately I have been leaving many comments at SteveSailer.net.

I've written before about the differences with Unz.com/isteve, and how most people clearly engage differently with Substack, which is subject to "Algorithm" power and many other factors that create quite a different experience.

(BTW, there is still no re-direct from Unz.com/peakstupidity to PeakStupidity.com despite the overwhelmingness of the logic of doing so).
J1234
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 5:49PM MST
PS

Adam, just in case you haven't heard about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yskwrXYYFU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugandan_space_initiatives#Amateur_effort





Adam Smith
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 2:34PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Achmed!

authentic โ†’ authenticated โ†’ authentication...
So much for synonyms. I guess I was getting a bit tired at 2am.
(Oh well. This is why I have a six o'clock rule for important things.)

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The Old Negro Space Program...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8

Yeah, I remember that. Pretty good from what I recall. (It's been awhile.) I've thought about doing some ken burns style videos with some of these ai generated things, but I haven't yet mostly because I'm lazy. (Years ago I had some windows software called "Memories on TV" that would automate a ken burns style slideshow out of photos that could be used in video production, but I don't use windows anymore. I probably still have the software somewhere around here, but it would take me a little while to find it. Not that I'm going to use it. I'm sure there is a linux alternative. If I'm going to do some computer work of that nature I'd spend that time on my data recovery/sorting/backups project. I really do have some work to do sorting, organizing and making backups of several terabytes of files. Maybe I'll start today?)

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I found a few more Tubwoman in space "photos"...

https://i.ibb.co/S3YT90n/Small-Step-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Ydb4y6r/Small-Step-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/rkm9Sn7/Small-Step-3.jpg

Inventor of the Subway and the First ๐๐ฅ๐š๐œ๐ค! woman to walk on the moon. So inspirational!

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There used to be a way to bypass the verification process when creating a new protonmail account, but that does not seem to be the case anymore. (Maybe there is and I didn't find it?) It is still mostly anonymous though. All they want is an email address to send a verification code to. So, I found another free email service that doesn't require any sort of verification...

https://tuta.com/

After you create the new account they give you a recovery code and ask you to save it for recovery purposes. Once you have this set up you can use it to open a new protonmail account. (If you want to.)

I don't really know how well tutamail really works as I haven't really used it, but it did send and receive the few emails I've sent back and forth to the new accounts I hooked up. For whatever that's worth.

(I also setup a new gmail account, just to see the process, but they still want a phone number to send a sms verification code. If you have a cheap burner phone that gets text messages this could be an option. I'm would also imagine there is some sort of free temporary sms service that could be used for this, but I didn't mess with that. Maybe later.)

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I guess that about covers it for now.
So, cheers to a wonderful evening! โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Moderator
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 12:21PM MST
PS: Alas, Mr. Hail, when I tried to comment on Alarmist's substack site, my writing didn't make it. I believe I'd have to give out a real email address* to get some code or what have you... maybe you can inform me on this.

Otherwise, I'd have responded to his "Fly Me to the Moon" post. I have a numer of points to make. It was good to see his writing there, anyway.


* I know, I can make one just for this, but nowadays it seems you have to give out real info to make an account. Even protonmail did, but (per Adam Smith, I think), there's a way out of that. That'd be nice - I'll try it again.
Moderator
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 12:18PM MST
PS: Oh, and I enjoyed your A.I. fun too, Mr. Smith. I would figure that Tubwoman used her skills as a railway engineer to help the fledgling UNSP* get "off the ground", so to speak. As usual, the White Man oppressed the whole operation and these hidden engineers, while stealing their work on control theory. Apparently the Black! woman worked on the Bode Plot - not the Bodie plantation from the United Negro College Fund ads, mind you, but the Bode Plot, used in control theory to ... (it's been too long!!)



* If you all haven't seen the interesting Ken Burnesque 10 minute documentary on The United Negro Space Program, I'll have to point it out to you here on this very site.
Moderator
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 12:10PM MST
PS: "Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised by Trump 2.0 and not disappointed. Time will tell." I feel better about him when I don't listen to him talk.

Then, actions speak louder than words, and some of his actions since the election have been pretty good.
Adam Smith
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 12:14AM MST
PS: Santa and the Guidestones...

I'll ask around, Mr. Hail. And I'll let you know what I find out.

A space available, eh? Interesting...

We can never have too many Guide Stones. โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Adam Smith
Wednesday - December 11th 2024 12:03AM MST
PS: Good evening, Mr. Hail!

Yeah, One-Giant-Leap.jpg does look like it might not be authentic. A little sketchy even. But I have it on somewhat good authority that One-Small-Step.jpg has been authenticated by the Smithsonian Institute's Photo Authentication Laboratoryโ„ข buried deep beneath the Smithsonian Archives in Washington F.S.

So that one might be legit.(?)

I guess... โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Hail
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 11:58PM MST
PS

Thanks for your usual diligent and excellent efforts, Mr. Smith.

If your many avenues of procuring info allow it, ask around if Santa is planning to bestow upon the state of Georgia some shiny new Guidestones this year. Because I know of a space available.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 11:53PM MST
PS: Me again...

https://i.ibb.co/mDz3mfB/Fly-Me-To-The-Moon.png

As you can see in the screenshot above, my computer doesn't want to play the youtube videos in Mr. Alarmist's latest substack post. It could very well be something to do with my hosts file (how I keep the advertisements out) or substack or something else... but whatever.

Here are the links to those videos just in case anyone else has the same sort of thing happening...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7enw6mFxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds6mvK4olQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtzY9o88Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbFdOYgQs9I

Cheers! โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Hail
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 11:49PM MST
PS

Re: https://i.ibb.co/zh4KXDf/One-Giant-Leap.jpg

I declare that Moon Landing photograph to be a HOAX!

The reflection of the astronaut's visor doesn't include the figure standing nearest the camera. (Contact Ron Unz and that pro-CCP expatriated white-American guy who believes the U.S. Air Force implanted brain-chips in him to make him forget his alien encounters; this is good-enough material for their next Moon Landing Hoax article.)

My proving that the one photograph is a hoax should not detract, however, from one thing upon which we can all agree based on overwhelming evidence: the top-three American Hero Harriet Tubman probably did indirectly inspired space-travel, as proven overwhelmingly in the Hidden Figures documentary-like movie of a few years ago.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 11:28PM MST
PS: Good evening, Mr. Hail, Mr. Moderator,

https://i.ibb.co/1TTFmgk/One-Small-Step.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zh4KXDf/One-Giant-Leap.jpg
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๐ด ๐‘š๐‘ข๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘”๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘ ๐‘  ๐‘›๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘’๐‘‘ ๐พ๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘›โ€ฝ
https://www.essence.com/news/black-women-in-the-news-kristen-welker/

I mean... Thank you, Achmed, for watching these videos so I don't have to. We all know Drumph is a bullshitter, so I guess we'll see what happens. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised by Trump 2.0 and not disappointed. Time will tell.

Happy 1:28 โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Hail
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 9:33PM MST
PS

FLY ME TO THE MOON
A commentary by The Alarmist

https://alarmist.substack.com/p/fly-me-to-the-moon
Moderator
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 7:36PM MST
PS: "Thus, we get to hear a fake form of non-interventionism,..." I was not happy with Trump's take on the Ukraine. From what I recall (from a few days back), the most important thing to Trump is that the Europeans pay for more of the war there. WTH?

That Friendly Advertisement features the "Fight, Fight, Fight" cologne. I don't think what type of cologne we (possibly) future rebels will be "wearing" is so very important. I'll pass.

Thanks for that link.

Moderator
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 7:22PM MST
PS: I hadn't kept up with the US meddling in Syria very much, Mr. Hail, except for remembering that Trump broke a non-intervention promise early in his term (Spring '17 IIRC) by arranging for missiles to fly in. The Regime's (I about wrote "our", but it's not us, just the Regime) foreign policy is to wreck everything. J. F. Gariepy's point was a very good one.

Cuba represented Communism's inroads into the Western Hemisphere, and, as noted back at the time of the nuclear missile crisis, 90 miles from Key West, Florida. However, the situation was much more simple than the unGodly mess in the Middle East of today.

"This week we saw a CNN girl-boss reporter dispatched and presented before the man, the woman ordered to wear a black veil in the "rebel" leader's presence. She sang his praises and CNN ran several days' worth of propaganda for him as having reformed and left mass executions, jihad, rule-by-terror, and sharia behind, or semi-behind, or something." Nice way of putting it, Mr. Hail. I'm glad I don't watch that stuff.
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Tuesday - December 10th 2024 2:30PM MST
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Hail
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 8:43AM MST
PS

"It's all about him...always"

That'd be a great tombstone epitaph.

Trump's political tombstone ought to have that inscribed on it.

I am willing to be surprised, and hope to be. But I feel we know who this man is by now. I would not bet he turns into a great president who halts and reverses the real great sucking sound of the great mushification, the great de-Westernization. I would bet he bumbles along, managed by the backroom-dealing "kushners" of the world, and claims victory.
Hail
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 8:32AM MST
PS

"Trump doesn't really have, or doesn't act like he has, any problem with large-scale immigration, so long as it's legal."

State of the Union speech, February 2019:

โ€œI want people to come into our country! In the largest numbers ever. But they have to come in LEGALLY.โ€ -- D. Trump
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 8:29AM MST
PS

"I am already used to Trump's "weave" (as per he and Joe Rogan), going off the subject, usually to say that he knows this and that person..."

A less-polite and less-euphemistic way of putting it is: "B.S'ing."
Hail
Tuesday - December 10th 2024 7:55AM MST
PS

The Fidel Castro "Meet The Press" interview (Sunday, April 19, 1959) that you describe reminds me of the recent CNN interview with the "rebel" leader in Syria*.

This week we saw a CNN girl-boss reporter dispatched and presented before the man, the woman ordered to wear a black veil in the "rebel" leader's presence. She sang his praises and CNN ran several days' worth of propaganda for him as having reformed and left mass executions, jihad, rule-by-terror, and sharia behind, or semi-behind, or something.

The interview and CNN's kid-gloving treatment sparked many Woke Jihadists commentary. It will not wend well...

Trump relied on his old demagogic instincts and said "STAY OUT OF SYRIA." He is "out to lunch" on this one; perhaps completely oblivious to the major role the U.S. has had for many years and the presence of a major U.S. base on Syrian soil right now, and regular interventions by the U.S. military bombing one or another of the dozens of armed factions, many of which were directly or indirectly funded by us.

Quote from J. F. Gariepy yesterday, reacting to the Trump "STAY OUT OF SYRIA" demagoguing:

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(quote from J. F. Gariepy)

One of the saddest things that will come from this Trump administration will be the rebranding of American military projects under the guise of non-interventionism.

"Let it play, not our fight" sounds good, but it's only stated here because these "rebels" are in line with Israeli-American interests.

Thus, we get to hear a fake form of non-interventionism, while groups are funded to do our bidding, and if things don't go the way Israel wants it, you can be sure that it will suddenly become "our fight" again.

(end quote from J. F. Gariepy)

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* note - The "rebel" leader is the head of one of the dozens of jihad-Islamist-style groups active in Syria since 2011. The man happens to have a huge U.S. government bounty on his head for his use of terrorism over many years.

Yet, strangely, his forces and the broader milieu which his forces galvanized during the anti-Syria offensive of the past three weeks has received plenty of U.S. backing and assistance. Double-dealing extraordinaire. Deliciously symbolic for how chaotic and nonsensical U.S. policy has been in ever since Hillary Clinton declared "Al Qaeda are now our allies in Syria" and John McCain demanded unlimited black-budget funding for "the Moderate Rebels."

This Turkish-backed faction's offensive caused the collapse of the wobbly edifice that Syria turned out to be (after 13 years of wars and interventions); Syria, the playpen of intelligence agencies and black money from a dozen or more outsider actors. CNN's praise for him looks ridiculous even now, still in the strange glimmer of the romanticized treatment given the Cuban guerrillas in 1959.

The Castro "Meet The Press" interview was more than three months after he and Che Guevara and the rest of the gang rolled into Havana, after the disintegration of the Batista presidency in the late weeks of 1958 and Batista fleeing Cuba on New Year's Day 1959.

A big difference will be that there is nothing like international Marxism or a Soviet power-bloc to give any sort of coherence to a new regime in Syria, and it will instead continue to be used as a playpen by the regional powers and become a new Libya.

Whatever security problems Cuba presented in its time, Syria looks to be possibly be considerably worse. For one thing, Syria (if the state coheres and we can still speak of a "Syria") has what must be one of the greatest misfortunes possible for a state to have, which is to share a border with "the Jewish State." The bloodlust of that noisy and troublesome state looks, these days, to be practically without limit; and to give them blue-water in which to expand on their very border is too tempting.

Israel may now be planning to seize Damascus and its environs. They have made many active moves in that direction already. Who's gonna say "No"? Trump?

By comparison, Cuba was an island and only exported revolution and such with some difficulty; and, as an island, could be "blockaded." There is no practical way to do that with Syria, which, in any case is already has so many foreign fingers in so many pies that it's laughable to even suggest a simple containment strategy.
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