Posted On: Monday - January 20th 2025 7:36PM MST
In Topics:   Music  Trump  US Feral Government
Happy Martin Luther, Doctor King, Reverend, J.D., CPA, RN Jr. Day! It's a good day to practice your shot groupings. We did. Wait, that's not what Peak Stupidity and the country are so excited about...*
Peak Stupidity featured this same great Chicago song we've got here today on the day before Donald Trump's inauguration 8 years ago. At that point, the blog had been in operation less than 2 months.
I am not so excited this time around. Perhaps I should be MORE excited than last time, because this Administration is much better arranged and staffed with people on Trump's side** in the war against Globalism and for Americans than the crowd of '16. However, I'm 8 years older and wiser, Donald Trump is 8 years older and... hopefully wiser but too old to change his egotistical blowhard personality "archetype", if I may.
One thing going for us is that this time around Trump is rightly pissed about the Totalitarian actions and woke madness that have come down upon all of us recently. That's nice, because, though Trump cares more about Trump than he does about America, our righteous anger is in synch with his.
Nope, the same as 4,8,12,16,20, 24, 28 ... actually ALL years ago, I didn't watch this what is more akin to a coronation than a simple swearing in per US Constitution I heard about it from my wife.*** I'm not happy with the VIllage People (no matter how straight they claim to be), the Black! pandering, and whatever else I can't remember and don't want to. It's the Executive Orders in this age in which we've decided to Bid Hello to Kings again - talking Rush here, not the Old Testament - that mattered today and will for the next few days and weeks., If those "stroke of the pen, law of the land - kinda cool"**** E.O.s aren't what we need and have demanded. The following are not in any kind of order:
1) The J6: This is not the most important issue as far as helping the country - a multi-million illegal deportation program is - but it'd be the biggest immediate signal that we are not continuing the Banana Republicanism. Contrary to what some ex-Green Beret Political Prisoner said, I'm NOT happy if it's just the non-violent prisoners. ALL must be released. The most riotous of the lot were pikers compared to the arsonist, looter, violent crowds all over in Summer of '20. I read that he has ordered 1,500 released. Though I'm not a Be-Bono-moaning Latin American-style Mother of the Disappeared, I am very happy about it so far.
2) The rejection of the Paris Accords. Trump-45 got us out of this particular part of the Climate Calamity™ scam, but Dark Brandon signed us back up in '21. We can keep this yoyo-ing up until we're beyond the climate's Point of Know Return . (No, that never seems to work somehow.) Perhaps America would have never lived up to our end of this stupid and odious agreement anyway, but this shows that Trump sees this (lately dubbed) Global Boiling for the scam it is. We will have more about this recently-neglected subject shortly on Peak Stupidity.
3) Freezing of Feral Gov't hiring (minus the military and other exceptions) along with a freeze on new regulations. Great!! [/Early 1980s Ronald Reagan voting Peak Stupidity staff] It's unfortunately not 1980, so these are nice thoughts but entirely too late to avoid ... let's call it "trouble". Oh, and this executive order is actually something the President, being, you know, Administrator of the Executive Branch, is supposed to be doing.
4) Some paperwork to beat inflation. From what I read, neither the FED nor gold standard were mentioned, so... yeah, guys, good luck with all that!
5) Immigration control and reversal. (For the latter hey like to use"remigration" now. Whatever. It's not about what THEY like.) I don't know the details and, as written here a number of times since their suspension of operations last Summer, we miss VDare dearly. (Here's hoping that link will go to more than difficult-to-get-through archives sometime again.) It was 3 days ahead, but hopefully it will hold that NPR worries Immigrants and advocacy organizations brace for Trump's Day One actions. The bracing was 3 days ago. We want to see the impact. Stay
The 10 anti-invasion points described here starting with "Declaring a National Emergency at the border" sound very good. We'll see what Trump gets around to...
6) TikTok lives to waste people's time another day - actually 75 days for now on a pause from being banned. Oh, wait, this one is definitely in order here in this post.
I'll put my white pill prescription renewal on hold too. There are side effects I don't want to experience. Stupidity is listed top of the bottle. Let's try music again.
I wrote this same 8 years back - don't bother listening to this one unless you have good speakers with some serious amount of bass.
Chicago at the time of this song from Chicago VI was:
Peter Cetera – lead vocals, bass
Robert Lamm – keyboards, backing vocals, Hohner Pianet
Terry Kath – guitar, backing vocals
Danny Seraphine – drums
James Pankow – trombone
Lee Loughnane – trumpet
Walter Parazaider – tenor saxophone
We wish Godspeed to President Trump-47 and a way for him that avoids the stupidity of Trump-45. If not, hey, we're MAGA, and we'll get somebody else.
* There was another fairly big event that happened on that Commie race hustler's birthday back in '20. (Makes sense calendar wise - 5 years and 2 leap days between these psuedo-birthday Mondays.) Peak Stupidity's lead blogger thought it big anyway, as yours truly attended the very big gun rally held in Richmond, Virginia. See There's great power in numbers - Case study: Richmond, Virginia and Richmond gun rally - a lesson about ignoring the narrative. It was also very cold - same month in which these same type extreme weather events seem to happen.
** Yeah, there will be some exceptions, I'm sure. There may have been one already, as Vickram has been said to be dropping out of the DOGE committee. Since his anti-Americans stance on the H1B visa issue, I'd be glad if he were to just (be made to) walk away.
*** This makes an interesting comparison to '16. She didn't care about politics much until about '18-'19. She did ask me, however, to help her register to vote in Summer of '16. I told her I'd be glad to if she planned on voting for Trump. There was too much hemming and hawing out of her, so that was a no-go!
**** That link goes to a site called News with Views and a page from one Debra Rae. From what I've just read, she's kinda cool.
Comments:
Moderator
Friday - January 24th 2025 6:13AM MST
PS: Ha, I like that "Wall of Sound" description, Jim! That was a Phil Spector (record producer?) thing from back in the days of The Beach Boys and stuff. (You might know more about this than I do.)
Now, it's being used in the political realm, and that does describes Trump's way of doing things. Mr. Sailer is using my same term "Blitzkreig", but I imagine it occurred to others. What's so surprising to all of us, I would guess, is that he CAN get so much done. We did not realize that yet, the President can be King, even if he's a Conservative.
Now, it's being used in the political realm, and that does describes Trump's way of doing things. Mr. Sailer is using my same term "Blitzkreig", but I imagine it occurred to others. What's so surprising to all of us, I would guess, is that he CAN get so much done. We did not realize that yet, the President can be King, even if he's a Conservative.
J1234
Thursday - January 23rd 2025 2:45PM MST
PS
Hail said:
"Steve Sailer says he opposes the name 'Gulf of America' and suggests Trump is allowing his petty, immature tendencies to hold sway over him in his apparent demand the USA wage a fight to eliminate the name 'Gulf of Mexico.' "
I think that's true to a fair degree. I agree with it mostly, but I doubt that Trump's (seemingly) pointless crusade for renaming the gulf can be entirely explained by his pettiness or ego.
I suspect that it might be - in part - one of those political slight-of-hands that he's been known to conjure up: He turns some meaningless issue or minor conflict (with an equally minor person) into a big deal to distract his base from the real issues at hand...like immigration, border security, reestablishing a manufacturing base, etc.
Having a dozen or so crusades going on at once allows him to change the subject easily when he fails to keep his major campaign promises. But yeah, creating a firestorm and staying at the center of it is a boost to his gigantic ego, too. This Gulf of American thing will probably never become anything that his supporters take to heart in a big way, but creating a wall of sound with a lot of these little things may provide some advantageous chaos for the Donald (he thinks.)
Mr. Trump, you have three tasks:
1) Kick the illegals out (ASAP)
2) Keep the illegals out (long term)
3) Bring industry back to the US (or start the process)
Do those three things and your base will forgive most other shortcomings.
Hail said:
"Steve Sailer says he opposes the name 'Gulf of America' and suggests Trump is allowing his petty, immature tendencies to hold sway over him in his apparent demand the USA wage a fight to eliminate the name 'Gulf of Mexico.' "
I think that's true to a fair degree. I agree with it mostly, but I doubt that Trump's (seemingly) pointless crusade for renaming the gulf can be entirely explained by his pettiness or ego.
I suspect that it might be - in part - one of those political slight-of-hands that he's been known to conjure up: He turns some meaningless issue or minor conflict (with an equally minor person) into a big deal to distract his base from the real issues at hand...like immigration, border security, reestablishing a manufacturing base, etc.
Having a dozen or so crusades going on at once allows him to change the subject easily when he fails to keep his major campaign promises. But yeah, creating a firestorm and staying at the center of it is a boost to his gigantic ego, too. This Gulf of American thing will probably never become anything that his supporters take to heart in a big way, but creating a wall of sound with a lot of these little things may provide some advantageous chaos for the Donald (he thinks.)
Mr. Trump, you have three tasks:
1) Kick the illegals out (ASAP)
2) Keep the illegals out (long term)
3) Bring industry back to the US (or start the process)
Do those three things and your base will forgive most other shortcomings.
Moderator
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 9:28AM MST
PS: From Mr. Hail: "Trump launched his campaign in June 2015 but had never particularly been a thinker or a principled policy man, and just picked up the immigration "issue" almost at random, almost as a form of publicity-stunt."
Agreed on the 1st clause. As a wheeler-dealer, his living for years, basically, Trump does not like getting scammed. He most definitely could see America getting scammed by "they're rapists, murderers, etc." with nothing to balance that out. He saw that letting people like this in, and how do you sort them?, as stupidly getting scammed.
What I don't think Trump saw, or cared about, was the stupidity and evil of the Population Replacement Programme, as a whole. That's why he's never been so much against LEE GULL immigration. He did, at some point, use the word "Moratorium". I can't remember if that was at the end of his last term or if it was much more recently that he said it. VDare, needless to say, was excited. However, then he goes on about stapling the green cards to proud foreign graduates of East Sioux Falls Community College! (I'm making up the name.) That's just Trump being Drumpf is all.
I think he really cared about the immigration issue in '15, but it was in along the lines of "we are getting screwed by this deal!" rather than with an understanding of all the ills that have come from massive immigration.
Agreed on the 1st clause. As a wheeler-dealer, his living for years, basically, Trump does not like getting scammed. He most definitely could see America getting scammed by "they're rapists, murderers, etc." with nothing to balance that out. He saw that letting people like this in, and how do you sort them?, as stupidly getting scammed.
What I don't think Trump saw, or cared about, was the stupidity and evil of the Population Replacement Programme, as a whole. That's why he's never been so much against LEE GULL immigration. He did, at some point, use the word "Moratorium". I can't remember if that was at the end of his last term or if it was much more recently that he said it. VDare, needless to say, was excited. However, then he goes on about stapling the green cards to proud foreign graduates of East Sioux Falls Community College! (I'm making up the name.) That's just Trump being Drumpf is all.
I think he really cared about the immigration issue in '15, but it was in along the lines of "we are getting screwed by this deal!" rather than with an understanding of all the ills that have come from massive immigration.
Moderator
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 9:17AM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I would read Ann Coulter columns on VDare too, another thing missing due to this loss. Of course, I can read her on her own site or a thousand other sites, probably. However, I haven't, so I've read only a couple in the last half a year. I like what you summarized though, above, so I'll go look for that one.
Regarding the other pundit, you mentioned, I used to read Charles Hugh Smith on his OfTwoMinds blog years ago. I'd get him confused with one Brandon Smith, who pissed me off one time. Anyway, thanks for that link - I'll read that one too.
Regarding the other pundit, you mentioned, I used to read Charles Hugh Smith on his OfTwoMinds blog years ago. I'd get him confused with one Brandon Smith, who pissed me off one time. Anyway, thanks for that link - I'll read that one too.
Moderator
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 9:14AM MST
PS: Amen on the moratorium. Indeed, not just VDare, but Peter Brimelow before the was a VDare brought that up, 30 years ago! At 30 years ago, 1995, there would have been 40 years of influx, both legal and illegal, that might could have been assimilated over the coming years.
To draw a parallel to a century ago (from NOW, that is), the limits set in 1921 and the law signed by Silent Cal in '24 brought the influx down to very near a moratorium, for 40 years. One difference I see, is that, though Irish, Eastern Europeans (incl. many Jews), and Italians were seen as much different, and they were, that was nothing compared to the attempt (which is not even being made anyway) to assimilate Somalians, Congolians, Haitians, Hmong, etc.
But, then 30 more years at high rates have gone by. If the nation had listened to Peter Brimelow then, we would be in much better shape, at least.
To draw a parallel to a century ago (from NOW, that is), the limits set in 1921 and the law signed by Silent Cal in '24 brought the influx down to very near a moratorium, for 40 years. One difference I see, is that, though Irish, Eastern Europeans (incl. many Jews), and Italians were seen as much different, and they were, that was nothing compared to the attempt (which is not even being made anyway) to assimilate Somalians, Congolians, Haitians, Hmong, etc.
But, then 30 more years at high rates have gone by. If the nation had listened to Peter Brimelow then, we would be in much better shape, at least.
M
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 7:47AM MST
PS
The debt ceiling was an idea. It doesn't do what it was designed to do though.
In theory, it limits spending.
In practice, it supplies another thing Congress can fight about *instead* of fighting about limiting spending.
It should be removed.
However, it would require a lot of political capital to push it through. I'm not sure it's worth spending that capital on this instead of the many, many other things that are wrong.
The debt ceiling was an idea. It doesn't do what it was designed to do though.
In theory, it limits spending.
In practice, it supplies another thing Congress can fight about *instead* of fighting about limiting spending.
It should be removed.
However, it would require a lot of political capital to push it through. I'm not sure it's worth spending that capital on this instead of the many, many other things that are wrong.
Moderator
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 5:34AM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I also agree with Steve Sailer on "Gulf of Mexico". That's just ridiculous. I don't agree on McKinley/Denali, though so I'll have a post on that. The whole thing sounds minor, and it is in comparison to the immigration fight, but my point is about fighting back in the verbal culture war and not being "reasonable".
Moderator
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 5:31AM MST
PS: Regarding the earliest of your comments under this post, Mr. Hail, your description of the Trump "phenomena" reminds me of the following Chris Caldwell article I just read (thanks to SafeNow in TUR comments):
https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/speaking-trumpian/
See what you think of that. It's pretty good, but I think Mr. Caldwell is overdoing the analysis in some parts. I could write a post on it, but there is so much else on deck!
I remembered the Trump "birther" efforts only a few years later. This one is somewhere between Big Mike (conspicuously - or not - absent at that inauguration) and Justin Castreau in credibility, IMO. Just as with the others, I made fun of it, as that's the whole point, dang it!
This goes way, way back here:
"Is President-Eject Øb☭ma indeed the AntiChrist?"
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=69
I'd maybe never known that it was this '11 era Øb☭ma thing that got Trump seriously started in national politics.
Good point there about Øb☭ma being the first ex-President (in modern times or forever?) to stick around in Washington, FS, capital of the Potomac Regime. Don't forget his compound on the Vin-yad. Can I call it a compound? Oh, that's for Conservative rich people only. How about a hacienda?
https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/speaking-trumpian/
See what you think of that. It's pretty good, but I think Mr. Caldwell is overdoing the analysis in some parts. I could write a post on it, but there is so much else on deck!
I remembered the Trump "birther" efforts only a few years later. This one is somewhere between Big Mike (conspicuously - or not - absent at that inauguration) and Justin Castreau in credibility, IMO. Just as with the others, I made fun of it, as that's the whole point, dang it!
This goes way, way back here:
"Is President-Eject Øb☭ma indeed the AntiChrist?"
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=69
I'd maybe never known that it was this '11 era Øb☭ma thing that got Trump seriously started in national politics.
Good point there about Øb☭ma being the first ex-President (in modern times or forever?) to stick around in Washington, FS, capital of the Potomac Regime. Don't forget his compound on the Vin-yad. Can I call it a compound? Oh, that's for Conservative rich people only. How about a hacienda?
Hail
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 3:51AM MST
PS
(On how Trump got here, continuation of previous comment...)
The following is a timestamped, satirical prediction of a Trump presidential run to occur in the 2010s, published in April 2011. (It also mentions a close relative of "Achmed E. Newman.")
Written by Charles Hugh Smith of the long-running, influential OfTwoMinds blog:
______________
Washington press conference, August 1, 2012
(published April 28, 2011)
In other news, President Obama continues to poll well in Washington, D.C. just a few months before the 2012 presidential election, but is trailing comic character Alfred E. Neuman in the rest of the country.
Republican candidate Donald Trump's campaign declared bankruptcy, which Mr. Trump characterized as "a necessary step to greatness. Bankruptcy is the basis of any great business."
Long-term Treasury yields shot up to 18% as the market absorbed the possibility that once in office, Mr. Trump would pursue bankruptcy as a national policy.
https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapril11/bernanke-2012-4-11.html
_____________
Charles Hugh Smith captured, early on there, some important essence of Trump-as-political-figure, of the Trump we've come to know. This perceptive blogger, even in this short little satirical entry, got many things right: Trump would run as a Republican, would make wide use of the word "Great(ness)", would be involved in deficit-spending, and was bold in his lack of principles.
Give that 2011 blogger (who has for years been republished on ZeroHedge, I believe) credit for this early "call."
Yes, people can be found floating a Trump presidential run back to the late 1980s already, and somewhat regularly thereafter although usually jokingly or satirically (remember also the Simpsons prediction of around 1999). But it's really in 2011 that it becomes real, after Trump's insertion of himself into the birth-certificate controversy, all throughout the month of April 2011 and reaching a fever-pitch in the last days of that month, at which time the blogger wrote that satirical "future news story."
Trump launched his campaign in June 2015 but had never particularly been a thinker or a principled policy man, and just picked up the immigration "issue" almost at random, almost as a form of publicity-stunt. He'd never been involved with the matter before that, although like most every other White American he knew well, felt well, the growing burden of the Third World as against a pre-1980s USA that was so heavily White. His positions, though, as Ron Unz pointed out, were those of a barstool commentator. This basic mismatch explains the ineffectiveness, bungling, and ridiculousness of Trump Term One.
To boil it down to one line: the man's true principle, in the 2010s and 2020s, has been that he wanted to be president to demonstrate his own greatness; he didn't care too much about reducing immigration, but was willing to say he cared in order to get people to affirm his greatness. Astute commentators could guess the grand-outline already at the opening of the 2010s, a saga that will be bookended between about April 2011 and 11:59am EST on January 20, 2029.
(On how Trump got here, continuation of previous comment...)
The following is a timestamped, satirical prediction of a Trump presidential run to occur in the 2010s, published in April 2011. (It also mentions a close relative of "Achmed E. Newman.")
Written by Charles Hugh Smith of the long-running, influential OfTwoMinds blog:
______________
Washington press conference, August 1, 2012
(published April 28, 2011)
In other news, President Obama continues to poll well in Washington, D.C. just a few months before the 2012 presidential election, but is trailing comic character Alfred E. Neuman in the rest of the country.
Republican candidate Donald Trump's campaign declared bankruptcy, which Mr. Trump characterized as "a necessary step to greatness. Bankruptcy is the basis of any great business."
Long-term Treasury yields shot up to 18% as the market absorbed the possibility that once in office, Mr. Trump would pursue bankruptcy as a national policy.
https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapril11/bernanke-2012-4-11.html
_____________
Charles Hugh Smith captured, early on there, some important essence of Trump-as-political-figure, of the Trump we've come to know. This perceptive blogger, even in this short little satirical entry, got many things right: Trump would run as a Republican, would make wide use of the word "Great(ness)", would be involved in deficit-spending, and was bold in his lack of principles.
Give that 2011 blogger (who has for years been republished on ZeroHedge, I believe) credit for this early "call."
Yes, people can be found floating a Trump presidential run back to the late 1980s already, and somewhat regularly thereafter although usually jokingly or satirically (remember also the Simpsons prediction of around 1999). But it's really in 2011 that it becomes real, after Trump's insertion of himself into the birth-certificate controversy, all throughout the month of April 2011 and reaching a fever-pitch in the last days of that month, at which time the blogger wrote that satirical "future news story."
Trump launched his campaign in June 2015 but had never particularly been a thinker or a principled policy man, and just picked up the immigration "issue" almost at random, almost as a form of publicity-stunt. He'd never been involved with the matter before that, although like most every other White American he knew well, felt well, the growing burden of the Third World as against a pre-1980s USA that was so heavily White. His positions, though, as Ron Unz pointed out, were those of a barstool commentator. This basic mismatch explains the ineffectiveness, bungling, and ridiculousness of Trump Term One.
To boil it down to one line: the man's true principle, in the 2010s and 2020s, has been that he wanted to be president to demonstrate his own greatness; he didn't care too much about reducing immigration, but was willing to say he cared in order to get people to affirm his greatness. Astute commentators could guess the grand-outline already at the opening of the 2010s, a saga that will be bookended between about April 2011 and 11:59am EST on January 20, 2029.
Hail
Wednesday - January 22nd 2025 1:01AM MST
PS
Ann Coulter, writing today, celebrates the executive order to "end birthright citizenship" and others. She says:
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The Trump we voted for in 2016, we got in 2024.
But he needs to make it all LAW, not ephemeral executive orders to be overturned by the next Democratic president.
He's got two years of a Republican House and Senate to do it.
______________
Ann Coulter, writing today, celebrates the executive order to "end birthright citizenship" and others. She says:
______________
The Trump we voted for in 2016, we got in 2024.
But he needs to make it all LAW, not ephemeral executive orders to be overturned by the next Democratic president.
He's got two years of a Republican House and Senate to do it.
______________
Hail
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 10:13PM MST
PS
-- Anyone pushing for an Immigration Moratorium? --
"the visibility of the deportation programs..."
The risk of the moment is that these people deport criminal illegals only. Is it 500,000 to be deported of a stock of 'active' illegals numbering (say) 30,000,000?
But it's even worse than that:
There is no better time to push for a policy of Moratorium on all immigration. An obvious need for some time.
The biggest risk of all may be a usual Trump-style maneuver of show deportations-for-show, followed by loosening up of normal-path immigration rules. With the net-effect of MORE Third Worlders being let in!
I'm not saying this is likely or that there are signs of it so far (that I have seen) (other than the Ramaswamy-Musk H1b Plan). I am saying that the goal should NOT be allowed to be "Immigration is great as long as it's LEEE-GULLL"; the goal should be a policy of Moratorium.
VDare promoted the concept of "Moratorium." The time is now; the time, actually, was some decades ago.
-- Anyone pushing for an Immigration Moratorium? --
"the visibility of the deportation programs..."
The risk of the moment is that these people deport criminal illegals only. Is it 500,000 to be deported of a stock of 'active' illegals numbering (say) 30,000,000?
But it's even worse than that:
There is no better time to push for a policy of Moratorium on all immigration. An obvious need for some time.
The biggest risk of all may be a usual Trump-style maneuver of show deportations-for-show, followed by loosening up of normal-path immigration rules. With the net-effect of MORE Third Worlders being let in!
I'm not saying this is likely or that there are signs of it so far (that I have seen) (other than the Ramaswamy-Musk H1b Plan). I am saying that the goal should NOT be allowed to be "Immigration is great as long as it's LEEE-GULLL"; the goal should be a policy of Moratorium.
VDare promoted the concept of "Moratorium." The time is now; the time, actually, was some decades ago.
Hail
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 9:23PM MST
PS
J1234 wrote: "I'm most happy about the EO that ends birthright citizenship... the profoundly destructive myth that America belongs to the world (and not to Americans) must end."
CNN came out with polling saying the majority of Americans consistently say they support "birthright citizenship," but I believe that's because the issue has never been elucidated to them. If the situation is explained, how many people would honestly support such things as Chinese "birth tourism" and instant-U.S. citizenship for illegals ("anchor babies")?
Not many would support this system, but it's muddled along for decades because no one ever made an "issue" of it. And Trump in Term-One did nothing on the matter, as far as I know, except the usual empty-talk. In the meantime, since Jan 20, 2017, the instant-citizenship policy has brought in how many millions more "U.S. citizens"?
What was disappointing to me in the "revoking birthright citizenship" executive order was there is no mention, that I could deduce, of revoking citizenships to those who fraudulently obtained them. A serious rot is baked into the USA's cake by now. Half-measures will not remove it.
J1234 wrote: "I'm most happy about the EO that ends birthright citizenship... the profoundly destructive myth that America belongs to the world (and not to Americans) must end."
CNN came out with polling saying the majority of Americans consistently say they support "birthright citizenship," but I believe that's because the issue has never been elucidated to them. If the situation is explained, how many people would honestly support such things as Chinese "birth tourism" and instant-U.S. citizenship for illegals ("anchor babies")?
Not many would support this system, but it's muddled along for decades because no one ever made an "issue" of it. And Trump in Term-One did nothing on the matter, as far as I know, except the usual empty-talk. In the meantime, since Jan 20, 2017, the instant-citizenship policy has brought in how many millions more "U.S. citizens"?
What was disappointing to me in the "revoking birthright citizenship" executive order was there is no mention, that I could deduce, of revoking citizenships to those who fraudulently obtained them. A serious rot is baked into the USA's cake by now. Half-measures will not remove it.
Hail
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 9:13PM MST
PS
Steve Sailer says he opposes the name "Gulf of America" and suggests Trump is allowing his petty, immature tendencies to hold sway over him in his apparent demand the USA wage a fight to eliminate the name "Gulf of Mexico."
Steve Sailer says he opposes the name "Gulf of America" and suggests Trump is allowing his petty, immature tendencies to hold sway over him in his apparent demand the USA wage a fight to eliminate the name "Gulf of Mexico."
Hail
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 8:41PM MST
PS
-- On negative feelings on Trump (skepticism about, pessimism about, and wariness of Trump), even in the promising first days of Term Two: An brief retrospective on Trump as political figure, 2011-2025 --
I regret to say I've become too negative about Trump to be as excited about the "executive orders" as I feel I should be.
(His years' worth of buffoonery, self-promotionalism, and lack of focus; his nepotism, including handing off policy-decisions to the likes of dual-citizens like Jared Kushner and his predilection to let himself be made a puppet by those with other-than the interests of White Middle-America; his closeness to people like Musk and Ramaswamy, and the overtly visible presence of Big Tech barons at positions of high-honor at the inauguration reinforce the view: Zuckerberg, Bezos, others. Those on the less-principled side of the bell curve sooner or later pick up that Trump really just wants to be liked and showered with praise and attention, and that he can be manipulated in this way. The great weakness of the narcissist.)
In principle -- and (as the saying used to go) "on paper" (nowadays: on a screen?) -- many of the "executive orders" are good. They may do some good, or much good, in the nearer- or longer-term.
Make no mistake, though, that they are also mixed in with bad signs. The signals he wants to annex the Panama Canal or Greenland and other cheap demagogic flag-waving bait that people are bound to fall for in large numbers once the matter is pushed from the top (just like the unfortunate mistakes of 1898). These trouble me.
Let me try to focus on what I mean and put it this way:
Trump as a political personality has always displayed a mix of two things:
(1.) boldness of speech, and in some ways of action;
(2.) a lack moral-seriousness or purpose.
This is no man of destiny. I think I once believed he was, or nearly so. I don't now. By some quirk, he fell backwards into a role that resembled the "man of destiny" role. Not because he was a Great Man but more because the political landscape morphed into a giant, Trump-backside-shaped bean-bag, into which the man has kept falling, time and again, for a decade or more.
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The widely-agreed-upon "launch" point of the Trump political career is 2011. In the spring of 2011, as I now recall the timeline, he began his claims that he had secured secret proof that the Obama birth-certificate had been faked and that Obama (by then the sitting president for two years and more) had really been born in Kenya. The presidential bid launch being four years and a few months later, June 2015.
Some commentators at the inauguration pointed out the proximity of these two figures. There was Obama -- a never-more-foreign-looking, gangly, aging Barack "H." Obama as the inauguration announcer announced his entry (the announcer's a-little-over-emphatic use of the middle-initial "H." was the universe laughing at us). Obama's wife refused to attend the inauguration, citing fascist beliefs of the incoming president; but the man himself was there.
Barack and his wife have lived, since 2017, in a luxury mansion in a wealthy part of Washington DC. The paid could have walked to the inauguration, in principle, they live so close. Barack and an inner circle of other post-Americans have been widely assumed to have had a controlling hand in the Biden administration. It's been often commented that he broke precedent of presidents leaving Washington upon leaving office. He sees himself as a permanent fixture of the imperial capital.
In any case, the commentators said it was ironic that Barack and Trump were chatting, and seated so close to one another and so forth, because it was as an "Obama detractor" that Trump launched his entire political career in the period 2011-2016.
Trump was a kind of demagogue from the very start in the early- and mid-2010s, but got a long series of "passes" for it because of his pre-existing celebrity and status as a bit of a clown. This basic phenomenon of allowing Trump-the-entertainer a "pass" was strong enough to withstand even the attacks, once they began in mid-2015. It's a great tragedy that a more-morally-serious, less-nepotistic figure couldn't have been in, instead of this man.
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-- On negative feelings on Trump (skepticism about, pessimism about, and wariness of Trump), even in the promising first days of Term Two: An brief retrospective on Trump as political figure, 2011-2025 --
I regret to say I've become too negative about Trump to be as excited about the "executive orders" as I feel I should be.
(His years' worth of buffoonery, self-promotionalism, and lack of focus; his nepotism, including handing off policy-decisions to the likes of dual-citizens like Jared Kushner and his predilection to let himself be made a puppet by those with other-than the interests of White Middle-America; his closeness to people like Musk and Ramaswamy, and the overtly visible presence of Big Tech barons at positions of high-honor at the inauguration reinforce the view: Zuckerberg, Bezos, others. Those on the less-principled side of the bell curve sooner or later pick up that Trump really just wants to be liked and showered with praise and attention, and that he can be manipulated in this way. The great weakness of the narcissist.)
In principle -- and (as the saying used to go) "on paper" (nowadays: on a screen?) -- many of the "executive orders" are good. They may do some good, or much good, in the nearer- or longer-term.
Make no mistake, though, that they are also mixed in with bad signs. The signals he wants to annex the Panama Canal or Greenland and other cheap demagogic flag-waving bait that people are bound to fall for in large numbers once the matter is pushed from the top (just like the unfortunate mistakes of 1898). These trouble me.
Let me try to focus on what I mean and put it this way:
Trump as a political personality has always displayed a mix of two things:
(1.) boldness of speech, and in some ways of action;
(2.) a lack moral-seriousness or purpose.
This is no man of destiny. I think I once believed he was, or nearly so. I don't now. By some quirk, he fell backwards into a role that resembled the "man of destiny" role. Not because he was a Great Man but more because the political landscape morphed into a giant, Trump-backside-shaped bean-bag, into which the man has kept falling, time and again, for a decade or more.
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The widely-agreed-upon "launch" point of the Trump political career is 2011. In the spring of 2011, as I now recall the timeline, he began his claims that he had secured secret proof that the Obama birth-certificate had been faked and that Obama (by then the sitting president for two years and more) had really been born in Kenya. The presidential bid launch being four years and a few months later, June 2015.
Some commentators at the inauguration pointed out the proximity of these two figures. There was Obama -- a never-more-foreign-looking, gangly, aging Barack "H." Obama as the inauguration announcer announced his entry (the announcer's a-little-over-emphatic use of the middle-initial "H." was the universe laughing at us). Obama's wife refused to attend the inauguration, citing fascist beliefs of the incoming president; but the man himself was there.
Barack and his wife have lived, since 2017, in a luxury mansion in a wealthy part of Washington DC. The paid could have walked to the inauguration, in principle, they live so close. Barack and an inner circle of other post-Americans have been widely assumed to have had a controlling hand in the Biden administration. It's been often commented that he broke precedent of presidents leaving Washington upon leaving office. He sees himself as a permanent fixture of the imperial capital.
In any case, the commentators said it was ironic that Barack and Trump were chatting, and seated so close to one another and so forth, because it was as an "Obama detractor" that Trump launched his entire political career in the period 2011-2016.
Trump was a kind of demagogue from the very start in the early- and mid-2010s, but got a long series of "passes" for it because of his pre-existing celebrity and status as a bit of a clown. This basic phenomenon of allowing Trump-the-entertainer a "pass" was strong enough to withstand even the attacks, once they began in mid-2015. It's a great tragedy that a more-morally-serious, less-nepotistic figure couldn't have been in, instead of this man.
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Moderator
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 6:13PM MST
PS: Again, for the best-of-the-rock&roll-era-disinclined, the big-lipped fellow is Mick Jagger, and that song is "Before They Make Me Run" from "Some Girls".
Moderator
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 6:11PM MST
PS: Good evening, Jim! I can see that your focus is on the E.O.s that have to do with the immigration invasion. That is to me too the MOST IMPORTANT order of business by far.
I just see the J6 as a quick and almost guaranteed fulfillment of a Trump promise, which shows he is going to follow through this time, on at least some of the important business. By "guaranteed", I mean, it's not going to run into flak much, as the previous guy did the same stuff in a much more corrupt fashion the very day before!
Back to immigration, I agree with on the visibility of the deportation programs. Yes, some will say that we should keep it low keyed to avoid media scrutiny, but they should face the truth, that the Lyin' Press will come out with sob stories, even if it were just 100 people. We need to make it continue on through 40 million. You make it very clear that we don't care about the sob stories - the future of America is just too important for that. (Put it that way, Trump)
That's a good point that we want to make the world of potential "refugees" understand that we mean business and their chances are not good. Additionally, on the shorter time-scale, there will be much self-deportation, once the illegals realize that they have a big chance of being deported in the near future. I'll bring up another English rock band here, with that big-lipped fellow who sang "I'm gonna walk before they make me run." That's the attitude we need to inculcate.
I just saw a tweet that said in Operation Wetback 70 years ago, about 50,000 Mexicans were deported, but this gave the incentive for nearly 10x that many, 480,000 or so, to self-deport.
I just see the J6 as a quick and almost guaranteed fulfillment of a Trump promise, which shows he is going to follow through this time, on at least some of the important business. By "guaranteed", I mean, it's not going to run into flak much, as the previous guy did the same stuff in a much more corrupt fashion the very day before!
Back to immigration, I agree with on the visibility of the deportation programs. Yes, some will say that we should keep it low keyed to avoid media scrutiny, but they should face the truth, that the Lyin' Press will come out with sob stories, even if it were just 100 people. We need to make it continue on through 40 million. You make it very clear that we don't care about the sob stories - the future of America is just too important for that. (Put it that way, Trump)
That's a good point that we want to make the world of potential "refugees" understand that we mean business and their chances are not good. Additionally, on the shorter time-scale, there will be much self-deportation, once the illegals realize that they have a big chance of being deported in the near future. I'll bring up another English rock band here, with that big-lipped fellow who sang "I'm gonna walk before they make me run." That's the attitude we need to inculcate.
I just saw a tweet that said in Operation Wetback 70 years ago, about 50,000 Mexicans were deported, but this gave the incentive for nearly 10x that many, 480,000 or so, to self-deport.
J1234
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 12:49PM MST
PS-
"Happy Martin Luther, Doctor King, Reverend, J.D., CPA, RN Jr. Day!"
You forgot "black Jesus" Achmed. :)
I'm with Adam...I have a general happiness/elation over Trump's EO's.
I'm most happy about the EO that ends birthright citizenship. As Adam said, it will face very serious opposition, but (as I mentioned on Unz) the profoundly destructive myth that America belongs to the world (and not to Americans) must end. (I liked Adam's "7.5 billion pre-Americans" phrase.) BR citizenship is the most tangible foundation of that myth. It probably won't be Trump's order that achieves that goal, however. The action will likely need to be legislative, though any legislative path will face serious judicial challenges, too.
A very very close second in my current EO happiness hierarchy is the deportation stuff. Again, Trump will have to make use of his current legislative advantage, as that might be the necessary route to travel on that journey. Will he do that? I don't know. He didn't do it last time (with the wall.)
I suspect that many immigration patriots would like (even serious) deportation efforts to be as low key as possible, for political reasons. I don't agree. I think that the deportation measures need to be conspicuously strenuous and draconian. Enough to live on in the memories of all third world people for the next century or two. If we don't establish deterrence into a significant long term future, we have accomplished very little. Everyone needs to be afraid of something, and future generations of illegal immigrants need to be afraid of kick ass deportation policies when they smuggle themselves (or others) into the US.
I'm also glad that the J6 people are being released to resume their lives. I had to laugh (in lieu of crying, I guess) when one of the MSM news outlets claimed that this EO would have "little impact" on those who've already served their sentences...OTHER THAN RESTORING THEIR VOTING RIGHTS AND THEIR RIGHT TO OWN FIREARMS, they said.
As Achmed mentioned, or at least insinuated, Trump himself is a weak link in all of this stuff being successful. He needs to remember that the campaign is over, and from this point on, we are not in love with him, we are only in love with whatever he is able to accomplish. (I did love Melania's outfit yesterday, though. Incredibly classy.)
- Jim
"Happy Martin Luther, Doctor King, Reverend, J.D., CPA, RN Jr. Day!"
You forgot "black Jesus" Achmed. :)
I'm with Adam...I have a general happiness/elation over Trump's EO's.
I'm most happy about the EO that ends birthright citizenship. As Adam said, it will face very serious opposition, but (as I mentioned on Unz) the profoundly destructive myth that America belongs to the world (and not to Americans) must end. (I liked Adam's "7.5 billion pre-Americans" phrase.) BR citizenship is the most tangible foundation of that myth. It probably won't be Trump's order that achieves that goal, however. The action will likely need to be legislative, though any legislative path will face serious judicial challenges, too.
A very very close second in my current EO happiness hierarchy is the deportation stuff. Again, Trump will have to make use of his current legislative advantage, as that might be the necessary route to travel on that journey. Will he do that? I don't know. He didn't do it last time (with the wall.)
I suspect that many immigration patriots would like (even serious) deportation efforts to be as low key as possible, for political reasons. I don't agree. I think that the deportation measures need to be conspicuously strenuous and draconian. Enough to live on in the memories of all third world people for the next century or two. If we don't establish deterrence into a significant long term future, we have accomplished very little. Everyone needs to be afraid of something, and future generations of illegal immigrants need to be afraid of kick ass deportation policies when they smuggle themselves (or others) into the US.
I'm also glad that the J6 people are being released to resume their lives. I had to laugh (in lieu of crying, I guess) when one of the MSM news outlets claimed that this EO would have "little impact" on those who've already served their sentences...OTHER THAN RESTORING THEIR VOTING RIGHTS AND THEIR RIGHT TO OWN FIREARMS, they said.
As Achmed mentioned, or at least insinuated, Trump himself is a weak link in all of this stuff being successful. He needs to remember that the campaign is over, and from this point on, we are not in love with him, we are only in love with whatever he is able to accomplish. (I did love Melania's outfit yesterday, though. Incredibly classy.)
- Jim
Moderator
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 12:30PM MST
PS: Ooops, the "he" in most of my last comment was Kieth Moon, drummer for the English band The Who until his death in 1976. (That was not at the end, but kind of near the end of the very best of their music.)
About that debt ceiling. I hate to say it, but that's probably a battle Trump, even if he cared to, would be better off fighting another day. He's inherited the problem from about a century of the US Congress, not to mention Dark Brandon, himself, Obama, the Bushes, yes, even Reagan (though he got screwed in a deal there), Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson... I'll just stop there.
About that debt ceiling. I hate to say it, but that's probably a battle Trump, even if he cared to, would be better off fighting another day. He's inherited the problem from about a century of the US Congress, not to mention Dark Brandon, himself, Obama, the Bushes, yes, even Reagan (though he got screwed in a deal there), Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson... I'll just stop there.
Moderator
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 12:26PM MST
PS: Hello Adam. That protection of the value of America citizenship one was something I didn't read much on. I am glad it has to do with the Bug-out Baby citizenship loophole. Stopping that is very important.
So, he withdrew from the WHO, huh? Last time someone withdrew from The WHO, it was due to alcohol, lots and lots of it. Actually, his death was from an overdose of a drug he took to treat alcohol withdrawal. This sort of thing should not be a problem for President Trump.
Or this (from wiki): "He was fascinated with blowing up toilets with cherry bombs or dynamite, and destroying television sets." Regarding the latter, he couldn't have been all bad.
So, he withdrew from the WHO, huh? Last time someone withdrew from The WHO, it was due to alcohol, lots and lots of it. Actually, his death was from an overdose of a drug he took to treat alcohol withdrawal. This sort of thing should not be a problem for President Trump.
Or this (from wiki): "He was fascinated with blowing up toilets with cherry bombs or dynamite, and destroying television sets." Regarding the latter, he couldn't have been all bad.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 10:41AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, M, Achmed,
I know Trump is generally a bullshitter, and I'm generally not a fan, but I must say I'm pleasantly surprised with a few of the good things he's done so far with his executive orders...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/granting-pardons-and-commutation-of-sentences-for-certain-offenses-relating-to-the-events-at-or-near-the-united-states-capitol-on-january-6-2021/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/withdrawing-the-united-states-from-the-worldhealth-organization/
I'm glad he pardoned (and commuted in a few cases) the January Sixth <𝑠>political prisoners</𝑠> hostages. This is a positive development. I feel some restitution is in order for these people.
I'm also happy to hear that he's removing the U.S. from the World Health Organization. They've clearly gone astray as we noticed during the PanicFest hysteria. The so called Pandemic Treaty was truly insane.
I'm sure some powerful interests will fight back against the EO titled 𝑃𝑅𝑂𝑇𝐸𝐶𝑇𝐼𝑁𝐺 𝑇𝐻𝐸 𝑀𝐸𝐴𝑁𝐼𝑁𝐺 𝐴𝑁𝐷 𝑉𝐴𝐿𝑈𝐸 𝑂𝐹 𝐴𝑀𝐸𝑅𝐼𝐶𝐴𝑁 𝐶𝐼𝑇𝐼𝑍𝐸𝑁𝑆𝐻𝐼𝑃 but it seems like a small step in the right direction. This is something that should be addressed either by congress or through the courts so it can't be undone by another executive order but I like the tone of it. No more anchorbabies for temporary workers, birth tourists, and 7.5 billion pre-Americans.
I heard something about reaching the debt ceiling today. I hope they don't raise it but it seems Drumph is in favor of raising or eliminating it. I think it's time to cut off Uncle Samantha's credit. She is a hopeless spendthrift who needs to stop spending. I guess we'll see what happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0qVVbMckU
Cheers! ☮️
I know Trump is generally a bullshitter, and I'm generally not a fan, but I must say I'm pleasantly surprised with a few of the good things he's done so far with his executive orders...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/granting-pardons-and-commutation-of-sentences-for-certain-offenses-relating-to-the-events-at-or-near-the-united-states-capitol-on-january-6-2021/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/withdrawing-the-united-states-from-the-worldhealth-organization/
I'm glad he pardoned (and commuted in a few cases) the January Sixth <𝑠>political prisoners</𝑠> hostages. This is a positive development. I feel some restitution is in order for these people.
I'm also happy to hear that he's removing the U.S. from the World Health Organization. They've clearly gone astray as we noticed during the PanicFest hysteria. The so called Pandemic Treaty was truly insane.
I'm sure some powerful interests will fight back against the EO titled 𝑃𝑅𝑂𝑇𝐸𝐶𝑇𝐼𝑁𝐺 𝑇𝐻𝐸 𝑀𝐸𝐴𝑁𝐼𝑁𝐺 𝐴𝑁𝐷 𝑉𝐴𝐿𝑈𝐸 𝑂𝐹 𝐴𝑀𝐸𝑅𝐼𝐶𝐴𝑁 𝐶𝐼𝑇𝐼𝑍𝐸𝑁𝑆𝐻𝐼𝑃 but it seems like a small step in the right direction. This is something that should be addressed either by congress or through the courts so it can't be undone by another executive order but I like the tone of it. No more anchorbabies for temporary workers, birth tourists, and 7.5 billion pre-Americans.
I heard something about reaching the debt ceiling today. I hope they don't raise it but it seems Drumph is in favor of raising or eliminating it. I think it's time to cut off Uncle Samantha's credit. She is a hopeless spendthrift who needs to stop spending. I guess we'll see what happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0qVVbMckU
Cheers! ☮️
Moderator
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 6:25AM MST
PS: I don't know how it all works, M. I've only worked for Uncle Sam a couple of summers many years ago. I remember a lot of paperwork, that's about it.
Not that I'm the age now to do it anyway, but in no way would I recommend the military to anyone, other than some (guaranteed?) select position like pilot or crew chief (mechanic).
Not that I'm the age now to do it anyway, but in no way would I recommend the military to anyone, other than some (guaranteed?) select position like pilot or crew chief (mechanic).
M
Tuesday - January 21st 2025 6:16AM MST
PS
re: hiring freeze. Depending on just how interested the Deep State is in opposing things, they may end up seconding military and border patrol personnel to other agencies as a workaround. This would depend on how complaisant higher-ups are to those agencies' goals I guess.
I'm also not certain just how eager some globalist would be to sign up for the military with a promise that "Yeah, you'll really be seconded to the ATF, honest!" Considering how often people complain that they signed up to work in electronics, but now they're a cook...
re: hiring freeze. Depending on just how interested the Deep State is in opposing things, they may end up seconding military and border patrol personnel to other agencies as a workaround. This would depend on how complaisant higher-ups are to those agencies' goals I guess.
I'm also not certain just how eager some globalist would be to sign up for the military with a promise that "Yeah, you'll really be seconded to the ATF, honest!" Considering how often people complain that they signed up to work in electronics, but now they're a cook...
Anyway, to try to somehow get a unified country back, the numbers from all angles must come down drastically. A half million of million per DECADE is not much. Assimilating those already here, after another program - run by Steven Miller, perhaps? - to kick out those who came in LEEGULLY via scams, green card holder, alleged citizen, whatever is implemented will STILL take a big part of a century, if it'd happen at all.