Posted On: Friday - January 24th 2025 9:38AM MST
In Topics: Elections '16 - '24 Immigration Stupidity Music Humor History Trump
In late November, with our white pill prescription filled and in use, Peak Stupidity was very excited about The Trump-47 Administration and the Existential Issue. It's January 23rd, 3 days into Trump-47 with his Blitzkrieg of Executive Orders, and we are again pretty exited, even without having downed a white pill in days! Things are happening this time... NOW. The whole atmosphere is nearly opposite of that 8 years ago. It's like the guy really HAS learned something. It's like he's pretty damn pissed at things too.
The duo of Steven Miller, the Staff General, and Tom Homan, the (more-like) Field General, have been at it. The ZeroHedge article I referred to in the previous post said President Trump Takes First Steps To Stop Migrant Invasion on the 21st. Today, on can read from "Tyler Durden" himself that "Just The Beginning": Trump Plans 10,000 Troops On Border To Restore National Security.
First, let's note that initial number of 10,000. That sounds familiar to me. Oh, yeah, that was our estimate for how many would be needed to man the southern border - see Border control maintenance vs. defending some Koreans from other Koreans - but once there is an actual serious border barrier to man. For now, it will have to be more of a wartime situation on many fronts, hopefully with enough shots fired to show we mean business. At the same time, there's no reason we couldn't bring in another 10,000 "SeaBee" engineering corps types to actually build that permanent border. As that old (early Trump-45) post title above alluded to, how about we have American soldiers defending America for a change? Koreans, Southern or Northern, will be just fine. Here's a good soundbite for a President who LUVS him some soundbites: Move the DMZ! or Bring Home the DMZ!
Deportations have started, according to Mr. Homan. The first of the ZH articles linked to above shows these "migrants" with their now-worthless Mayorkas-created CPB (Customs and Border Protection) apps. This picture, I gotta assume, shows them outside our country or in detention here. Their appointments have been cancelled. (Hey, think of it as your version of America's swamped ERs) Those millions of illegal aliens who've used this app to get into the interior already - and I've seen them myself on airplanes - aren't worried about this cancellation at all. They've got that one page letter with a B&W photo that the TSA let them onto the airplanes with, they are gone, and they were never intending to go to any appointment in 18 months. "We don't neeeed no steeeenking appointments, Senor!"
However, along with lots of Americans by now, Trump has seen that turn-illegals-into-legal-parolee scam for what it is. The millions that got in this way must be sent back.
About deportations, then: I really hope that Trump won't be satisfied with sending back just the large bulk of the most violent 5 - 100 fold* Mariel Boatlift 2.0. That's half a million. His anger at the destruction wrought by Dark Brandon and minion Mayorkas must have him aiming to send those 10-12 million recent illegal aliens back too. Then, how do you know who broke in when - they are, after all, "undocumented"? (Some Americans, who have spent time working for H&R Block, might call them "The False Documented.) In this case, that's a good thing! Don't worry about when they arrived. If they are not citizens or foreign Nationals**, out the door they go.
However, I could see Trump, after too much wanting to be liked by Washington, FS (or is it, hopefully, a lost cause), calling it "Mission Accomplished" after booting out the violent gang members and the like. Let's hope not.
Next, as Peak Stupidity noted in those two posts regarding the cost of building and maintaining a serious border barrier, the money to do the job will be peanuts among the $6,000,000,000,000 Federal budget. I'm gonna do some posts on the Climate Calamity™ discussing the same purposeful numerical stupidity, but Trump and MAGA have got to ignore the "worrisome" cost estimates. For one thing, they have no idea. For another, you need that $6 Trillion denominator to compare to. (For example, back-of-envelope calculations contained in the post above show costs in the range of a couple of hours to half a day out of the 24/7/365-366 Gov't spending.) For another, which we'll get to next, you don't have to physically deport them all. Finally, if it made the country broke... OK, in 2 years instead of 5, I would say saving the nation was worth it. You will never be the same nation again if you replace the population. OTOH, you can always declare bankruptcy:
It may have been way too Politically Incorrect to talk about until this past Monday, but the history of President Eisenhower's Operation Wetback is now under discussion. The ZH 1st post has some numbers:
The numbers in the main tweet-text are for California and Arizona in that summer of 1954. There is more about Texas*** in the smaller text - hopefully the reader can zoom in. What was that larger political resistance implied for Texas? I'll tell you what. His name was Lyndon B. Johnson. As if he wasn't enough of a scumbag, he was part of the pro-cheap-labor lobby. (~9 years before Pres. LBJ). That aside, when the work was done, one can see that the self-deporting to deported ratio was 9 3/4 for CA and AZ, and 6 1/4 to 8 3/4 for Texas.
For Trump and other non-VDare-readers: Self-deportation a real, important, and even overwhelming phenomena. Don't let the ctrl-left and its Lyin' Press arm tell you otherwise. Peak Stupidity has noted for a completely different reason - being a prepper - why one might want to "walk before they make me run." That's from an obscure, but very good Rolling Stones song, with its lyrics applying to yet something else. Yet, sure, why wait to be arrested and put on a
After all is said and done,That's 6-9 TIMES as many self-deportation as forced ones. That would mean only 3 - 6 million or so illegals would have to be forced home, or across the Mexican (and even Canadian, yes) border to bring the huge numbers - 40 million or so - down to very low ones. I say "would" here, because the deportation program must be done seriously and with lots of visibility. Yes, the sob stories will flow. Tough shit. There's lots of sobbing that goes on during the ruination of one's country - imagine if you were a 50 year resident of Springfield, Ohio, and they up and did this to you. Let the sobbing be done by the criminals-by-definition, every one, who made the decision to enter illegally. We're finally sending you home - get over it! More sobbing by the ctrl-left and Globalists who WANT ruination of America is welcomed.
gotta move while it's still fun.
Let me walk before they make me run.
Well, that was quite a lot more than I intended to write. I did want to insert some humor here from one Harrison H. Smith, who noted that some "migrants" down in ole Juarez will not get in so easily:
Heh! No, it's enough already, what, with the rapists, murderers, home invaders, and ID thieves. Now, they're bringing in procrastinators. Tell you what, let's deport the procrastinators first. That'll really screw with their heads. "¿Self-deportation? ¡Oye! ¡No hoy! ¡Manana, senor, manana!"
OK, I got the song in my head, so you may as well too:
That's guitarist Keith Richards singing lead there!
* I'd written 100x before, but this depends on how one defines this repeating (more like rhyming) of 45 year-ago history. I can't say all of Castro's exodees were Tony Montanas, and not all the 10-12 million - 100x as many as left Cuba on boats in the Spring of 1980 - are violent gang members either. Apples-to-apples, it may be 100x the violent ones or it might be a much lower ratio, due to much more than 1 in 20 of the Cubans that came having been violent criminals.
** If the Steves, Miller and Bannon, can get it into Trump's head that but-LEE GULL immigration is a big part of the PRP, perhaps most foreign Nationals can be sent home too.
*** I think likely due to comparably rougher terrain at the border, New Mexico seems to be left out of a lot of numbers, discussion, and political action.
Comments:
Adam Smith
Monday - January 27th 2025 2:53PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, everyone!
Jim writes...
𝐴𝑛𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑓 𝑈𝑆 𝑑𝑒𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑒 𝑓𝑙𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠 𝑏𝑦 𝑀𝑒𝑥𝑖𝑐𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝐶𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑖𝑎? 𝐼'𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠.
Why not put these criminal deportees in parachutes and drop them out of planes from about 3,500 feet over Mexican/Colombian and other Latin American airfields? Or, perhaps fill up some crates with deportees and drop them on Mexican and Colombian runways with a Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1jgHoS_lM
Or put them on ships and drop them on Mexican and Colombian beaches. Or on inner tubes a half mile from the beach. Or something like that.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71vNJtgHSDL.jpg
Once enough of these videos circulate and the news gets out people might stop coming. Some may even self deport. Of course one of the best ways to discourage the immigration invasion is to stop granting citizenship to anchorbabies and to stop giving these people free healthcare and other forms of welfare.
And while we are at it, I'd round up the people working for HIAS (the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society), Global Refuge (formerly known as Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service) and other non-profits of the sort and charge them under 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a).
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1907-title-8-usc-1324a-offenses
𝑇𝑖𝑡𝑙𝑒 8, 𝑈.𝑆.𝐶. § 1324(𝑎) 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠 𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑡 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠. 𝑆𝑢𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 1324(𝑎)(1)(𝑖)-(𝑣) 𝑝𝑟𝑜ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛 𝑠𝑚𝑢𝑔𝑔𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔, 𝑑𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑠𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠, 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠, 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑦 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑠. 𝑆𝑢𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 1324(𝑎)(2) 𝑝𝑟𝑜ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡𝑠𝑜𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟, 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑑𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦.
A few high profile convictions with 10 year prison sentences and heavy fines should help discourage the others who would engage in this kind of criminal behavior. I'd start with Alejandro Mayorkas, Mark Hetfield, and Krish O’Mara Vignarajah...
https://hias.org/statements/hias-congratulates-board-member-alejandro-mayorkas-dhs-nomination/
https://www.globalrefuge.org/who-we-are/leadership/
https://hias.org/staff/mark-hetfield/
But I'm sure there are many others who can be charged under 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a). The criminals masquerading as "government" never seem to have any problem going after average Americans for various non-crimes so I don't see why they would have any problem going after these nation wreckers and their accomplices.
I guess we'll see what happens.(?)
(Anyway...)
I hope you guys all enjoy your evening. Cheers! ☮️
Jim writes...
𝐴𝑛𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑓 𝑈𝑆 𝑑𝑒𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑒 𝑓𝑙𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡𝑠 𝑏𝑦 𝑀𝑒𝑥𝑖𝑐𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝐶𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑖𝑎? 𝐼'𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠.
Why not put these criminal deportees in parachutes and drop them out of planes from about 3,500 feet over Mexican/Colombian and other Latin American airfields? Or, perhaps fill up some crates with deportees and drop them on Mexican and Colombian runways with a Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1jgHoS_lM
Or put them on ships and drop them on Mexican and Colombian beaches. Or on inner tubes a half mile from the beach. Or something like that.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71vNJtgHSDL.jpg
Once enough of these videos circulate and the news gets out people might stop coming. Some may even self deport. Of course one of the best ways to discourage the immigration invasion is to stop granting citizenship to anchorbabies and to stop giving these people free healthcare and other forms of welfare.
And while we are at it, I'd round up the people working for HIAS (the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society), Global Refuge (formerly known as Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service) and other non-profits of the sort and charge them under 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a).
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1907-title-8-usc-1324a-offenses
𝑇𝑖𝑡𝑙𝑒 8, 𝑈.𝑆.𝐶. § 1324(𝑎) 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠 𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑡 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠. 𝑆𝑢𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 1324(𝑎)(1)(𝑖)-(𝑣) 𝑝𝑟𝑜ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛 𝑠𝑚𝑢𝑔𝑔𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔, 𝑑𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑠𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠, 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑟𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠, 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑛𝑔𝑎𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑦 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑠. 𝑆𝑢𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 1324(𝑎)(2) 𝑝𝑟𝑜ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡𝑠𝑜𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟, 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑑𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦.
A few high profile convictions with 10 year prison sentences and heavy fines should help discourage the others who would engage in this kind of criminal behavior. I'd start with Alejandro Mayorkas, Mark Hetfield, and Krish O’Mara Vignarajah...
https://hias.org/statements/hias-congratulates-board-member-alejandro-mayorkas-dhs-nomination/
https://www.globalrefuge.org/who-we-are/leadership/
https://hias.org/staff/mark-hetfield/
But I'm sure there are many others who can be charged under 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a). The criminals masquerading as "government" never seem to have any problem going after average Americans for various non-crimes so I don't see why they would have any problem going after these nation wreckers and their accomplices.
I guess we'll see what happens.(?)
(Anyway...)
I hope you guys all enjoy your evening. Cheers! ☮️
Moderator
Sunday - January 26th 2025 8:14PM MST
PS: Sorry for the late response, Jim - late day today.
Yeah, people had suggested the blanket revision of visas would be the way to force a country to accept its own people, long before this Trump deportation fun. You suggested another way, buy then we're getting to see how it's done right now. The dealings with Colombia have happened very quickly, in the age of tweeting.
I figure some of this had been though about ahead of time, but who knows? This is something Trump is very good at. He takes things personally, but that worked pretty well in his man-on-man battle with the Socialist (Trump's word) President of Colombia. It looks like Trump has already won this one.
BTW, I really like the way Homan talks to the press. He indicated that this would NOT stop after only all the violent half million or so. Yes, they are the priority right now, but as this one reporter kept asking him what was going to happen (with a look of extreme anxiety on her face), he kept on-upping his previous statements. He does not back down. I hope Trump doesn't interfere.
Yeah, people had suggested the blanket revision of visas would be the way to force a country to accept its own people, long before this Trump deportation fun. You suggested another way, buy then we're getting to see how it's done right now. The dealings with Colombia have happened very quickly, in the age of tweeting.
I figure some of this had been though about ahead of time, but who knows? This is something Trump is very good at. He takes things personally, but that worked pretty well in his man-on-man battle with the Socialist (Trump's word) President of Colombia. It looks like Trump has already won this one.
BTW, I really like the way Homan talks to the press. He indicated that this would NOT stop after only all the violent half million or so. Yes, they are the priority right now, but as this one reporter kept asking him what was going to happen (with a look of extreme anxiety on her face), he kept on-upping his previous statements. He does not back down. I hope Trump doesn't interfere.
J1234
Sunday - January 26th 2025 2:06PM MST
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OK, I see right now that Trump is using tariffs against Columbia. Will that work? I thought the only thing imported from Columbia was illicit narcotics. We'll see.
He could just say to Mexico, "We'll send ALL illegals - Mexican, Columbian, Guatemalan, etc. etc. - into Mexico by rail or ship, and Mexico can deal with them ALL. Oh...and any federales who attempt to disrupt or stop these transports will be blown out of the water (or Sonoran desert.)
I think Mexico wouldn't want to deal with ALL of the immigrants.
OK, I see right now that Trump is using tariffs against Columbia. Will that work? I thought the only thing imported from Columbia was illicit narcotics. We'll see.
He could just say to Mexico, "We'll send ALL illegals - Mexican, Columbian, Guatemalan, etc. etc. - into Mexico by rail or ship, and Mexico can deal with them ALL. Oh...and any federales who attempt to disrupt or stop these transports will be blown out of the water (or Sonoran desert.)
I think Mexico wouldn't want to deal with ALL of the immigrants.
J1234
Sunday - January 26th 2025 1:52PM MST
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Any thoughts on the blocking of US deportee flights by Mexico and now Columbia? I presume some other Latin American countries will follow suit.
I'd say it's an easy problem to fix; refuse ALL inbound air traffic from Mexico and Columbia (with maybe a two or three week grace period before starting the process so that Americans traveling in those countries can get back to the US.) I'd be interested in hearing the ideas of others.
SafeNow's Supermax idea is good idea for encouraging self deportation, but is slightly unappealing in that I just want all of those people OUT of our country. It'll be interesting to see how all this goes down.
Any thoughts on the blocking of US deportee flights by Mexico and now Columbia? I presume some other Latin American countries will follow suit.
I'd say it's an easy problem to fix; refuse ALL inbound air traffic from Mexico and Columbia (with maybe a two or three week grace period before starting the process so that Americans traveling in those countries can get back to the US.) I'd be interested in hearing the ideas of others.
SafeNow's Supermax idea is good idea for encouraging self deportation, but is slightly unappealing in that I just want all of those people OUT of our country. It'll be interesting to see how all this goes down.
Moderator
Friday - January 24th 2025 8:42PM MST
PS: Good evening, SafeNow.
If this thing is going to work, it must be ramped up before too long (a few months, less than a year) to a multi-thousand/day rate (5,000 means less than 2 million a year, but that's not half bad due to the self-deportation thing.) You could randomly put some of your LBGs or CPs (haha) into Leavenworth - just say that the detention centers are full, so this is the best we can do for now... Now could be a long time, and you're right, with word that some are getting sent to these places, I think others will go home.
Guantanamo does have a lot of space. In fact I remember looking it up and calculating how many illegal aliens you could hold there, one other time on this site. (Not always easy to find stuff, as you know.)
If this thing is going to work, it must be ramped up before too long (a few months, less than a year) to a multi-thousand/day rate (5,000 means less than 2 million a year, but that's not half bad due to the self-deportation thing.) You could randomly put some of your LBGs or CPs (haha) into Leavenworth - just say that the detention centers are full, so this is the best we can do for now... Now could be a long time, and you're right, with word that some are getting sent to these places, I think others will go home.
Guantanamo does have a lot of space. In fact I remember looking it up and calculating how many illegal aliens you could hold there, one other time on this site. (Not always easy to find stuff, as you know.)
SafeNow
Friday - January 24th 2025 5:20PM MST
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Regarding self-deportation, we should encourage it by using the scary-harsh Supermax in Colorado as an object lesson for what might happen to you if you get picked up. A few months ago, a conservative War Street Journal op-ed columnist wrote a “the word will get around” piece, suggesting that a few very-harsh prison sentences in New York City might incentivize New York City bad guys to change their behavior. So, let’s take a shot at “the word will get around” by sending some guys to the Supermax or to Guantanamo. And, I am not referring just to illegals who murder nursing students. I am referring to a few leaf blower guys or chicken pluckers who are guilty of “merely” being here illegally, which is a federal offense, and so off they go.
Regarding self-deportation, we should encourage it by using the scary-harsh Supermax in Colorado as an object lesson for what might happen to you if you get picked up. A few months ago, a conservative War Street Journal op-ed columnist wrote a “the word will get around” piece, suggesting that a few very-harsh prison sentences in New York City might incentivize New York City bad guys to change their behavior. So, let’s take a shot at “the word will get around” by sending some guys to the Supermax or to Guantanamo. And, I am not referring just to illegals who murder nursing students. I am referring to a few leaf blower guys or chicken pluckers who are guilty of “merely” being here illegally, which is a federal offense, and so off they go.
Nice idea. You'll need and even bigger "Correctional" facility though, as you'd have to pick up airline executives, TSA agents", and probably more people I could think of. Charge them all - let God sort em out!