Posted On: Wednesday - September 10th 2025 6:33PM MST
In Topics: Commies Lefty MegaStupidity Media Stupidity The Future alt-right/MAGA ctrl-left Bible/Religion Books
Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA was shot dead today with a rifle at a rally in Utah. He was just 31 y/o and a father of a just-turned-3 y/o daughter and a 16 month-old baby boy. Their future as a happy family has just been destroyed. Mr. Kirk may have had plans for the future in this regard, but he wasn't even a politician, per se, as in running for office. They don't just assassinate guys in charge anymore (or attempt to) - I guess they are thinking farther ahead now.
Charlie Kirk started his efforts to change the minds of young people toward Conservatism when he was very young himself. I had to check these numbers, but, yes, he, along with one Bill Montgomery, started the organization Turning Point USA when the former was only 18. This has been a religious crusade of sorts for the minds and souls of University and also High School students. The Universities have been one of the American Institutions most earliest and most easily infiltrated by Communists over the years. The ctrl-left brainwashing and coercion is nothing new, and I'd say the infiltration of the Universities could have been called a "mission accomplished!" 20 years ago.
There's always a bit of resistance from the partisans though. Charlie Kirk and his organization were making some inroads. I remember the guy being called a cuck, with some evidence thereof, some years ago. Recently, though, he's realized, I think, that the enemy is indeed evil, not just stupid.* Mr. Kirk has been a big part of the Conservative movement for young people, and with the great support of Donald Trump, he was a real thorn in the side of the Communist ctrl-left.
I have probably not heard Charlie Kirk speak more than 5 minutes, just due to my other internet favorites, but my wife has watched him many times. She was crying when she heard this news, something pretty unheard of around the Peak Stupidity headquarters.
Now, about the Fourth Turning, the big question is "Will Peak Stupidity EVER get around to writing that review?!" We don't put off too many posts for 8 years, but ... well, yeah, we'll get to it. In William Strauss's & Neil Howe's The Fourth Turning and its precursor, Generations; The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069, the authors are very prescient or just lucky with their predictions of the times America has been facing lately. (2069? Let's not even go there.)
In this "Generational Theory, there are 4 phases of each ~80 year cycle - a spiral, really - in English/American history and future times. The fourth turning, the latest of which we should have gotten into 20 years back, is one of upheaval, called the "Crisis" turning. Now, you may see why people got into these books, but when I first read Generations in the mid/late '90s, I saw no crisis. By the 2nd time I read these books I was not so sure. That was in '05 or so.
As I recall from reading these books those many years ago, the Crisis Turning is a time when there is not just division in political views -that's always the case. It's a time when the positions become un-reconcilable. Both sides find it desirable to destroy the other side rather than to compromise. (Well ,l mean, nobody told us there'd be Communists!) That is indeed the case these days. The ctrl-left has become a true enemy of traditional America - they want to destroy it all. If we don't want them to destroy it all, we've got to destroy the ctrl-left.
However, American Conservatives have not yet resorted to violence, as much as the $PLC, Regime Media, and Dark Brandon have lied otherwise. During this Fourth Turning, Charlie Kirk's Turning Point, with its religious roots, peaceful spreading of ideas to young people that differ from the destructive BLT-G++, anti-White, anti-Christian rhetoric and corercian of the ctrl-left, is, I suppose, an organization that JUST! WON'T! DO!
There was Charlie Kirk, from what I've read, giving the other side a chance to argue back and having nice but firm discussions to enlighten the students on various opinions, yet the $PLC, for one, added Turning Point to it's "Hate Map" 3 1/2 months back. The $PLC compared Mr. Kirk's organization to the Ku Klux Klan. Now he's been shot dead.
Just a few days back, the Regime-Media-buried story of the horrific stabbing of the young pretty Ukrainian lass in Charlotte, NC got "picked up", let's call it, by President Trump. The Regime Media was forced to report something about it, even when it was, as Unz Review commenter David in TN wrote here their claims that this black-on-White violence a) happens all the time, so no point ... and/or b) is very very rare, so why bother ...
The story is out there now, though, and all ctrl-left efforts to squash it have been defeated . Though most Americans who live anywhere other than in lily-White enclaves already understand the plague of black violence and dysfunction, this too, is now out in the open for all to see and ponder on. The ctrl-left that has caused such things as (pretty directly) the death of this young lady just trying to ride the train, now must try to defend all this. That's not working out so well at this point.
These skirmishes in this Cultural War are becoming more frequent. The divisions are getting wider. The ctrl-left simply cannot accept that they won't be able to continue their march of destruction unhindered.
Well, we'll soon find out who the assassin of Charlie Kirk is. We'll see how seriously "our" side prosecutes the guy or digs into who else was behind this. This is just the beginning, I'm afraid. Fourth Turnings are a bitch.
PS: I just saw that Neil Howe has written The Fourth Turning is Here a couple of years ago. Damn straight it is!
* That's one of the posts that was to come this week, postponed for at least a day for this one.
Comments:
Dieter Kief
Thursday - September 11th 2025 3:23AM MST
PS -
May Charlie Kirk rest in peace - he was a good man.
Charlie Kirk made a good interveiw with - the Steve Sailer man - he linked that today on X.
Hi Mod. 'n' all good people - - Robert Barnes: Ccarlie Kirk was on Urkainian Hit-list.
Kennedy- and REagan biographer Starr - linked on X below my Barnes post: This was a professional hit-job
(Stephen King - the shooter "was mentally instable...")
https://x.com/DieterKief/status/1966064800552604005
May Charlie Kirk rest in peace - he was a good man.
Charlie Kirk made a good interveiw with - the Steve Sailer man - he linked that today on X.
Hi Mod. 'n' all good people - - Robert Barnes: Ccarlie Kirk was on Urkainian Hit-list.
Kennedy- and REagan biographer Starr - linked on X below my Barnes post: This was a professional hit-job
(Stephen King - the shooter "was mentally instable...")
https://x.com/DieterKief/status/1966064800552604005
Hail
Thursday - September 11th 2025 12:26AM MST
PS
This was shocking news. Sad, of course. Troubling, outrageous. Regardless of how one felt about Charlie Kirk.
Observation: the killing elicited saturation coverage from the US media, wall-to-wall, and also hushed tones of silence from the Left. I think the cable news-talk shows covered no other news at all. This was to an interesting degree given that CK was not a political figure himself. One might say it was over-done, because there is obviously other news, and Charlie Kirk was not the president or somebody like that. Something about the killing really spooked them into saturation coverage. (Steve Sailer has pointed out the news pays wildly disproportionate attention to airplane accidents not (just) because they're dramatic, but because the people who produce the elite media are on airplanes so often.)
CK was a social-media personality, or closer to that than anything else. The model he uses to rise to fame was a pre-social-media model, but the end-result during his mid-2010s rise to fame was more-or-less exactly that. In adult life, CK was a political agitator. Activist is the polite was to put it.
Starting already the summer after he graduated high school or so, and until his dying day one month shy of his 32nd birthday, he did nothing but politics and political-party promotionalism. We see a number of others on this path, many of them very-big names: David Hogg, Greta Thunberg. In earlier generations, there was not much of a viable path for people like that to sustain a career in the ways these people have done, CK among them if a bit older. It'd be something you did in brief spurts. The idea of "volunteering for a campaign," which meant less than one year of activity, and then you did normal-work things. Charlie Kirk did it for 13.5 consecutive years. We just accept that this is possible, now, in the age of the social-media influencer and politicized discourse.
I wrote something in one of the Sailer thread, expanding on these thoughts, concluding that the tragic flaw, behind both CK's success and his ultimate assassination, was the Trump 2015-16 moment:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/charlie-kirk-31-rip/comment/154697704
(I wanted to get those thoughts out, but naturally worried throughout that it would sound insensitive. As he was the target of a political assassination, we should be able to think of the man as more than an individual, as a symbol.)
This was shocking news. Sad, of course. Troubling, outrageous. Regardless of how one felt about Charlie Kirk.
Observation: the killing elicited saturation coverage from the US media, wall-to-wall, and also hushed tones of silence from the Left. I think the cable news-talk shows covered no other news at all. This was to an interesting degree given that CK was not a political figure himself. One might say it was over-done, because there is obviously other news, and Charlie Kirk was not the president or somebody like that. Something about the killing really spooked them into saturation coverage. (Steve Sailer has pointed out the news pays wildly disproportionate attention to airplane accidents not (just) because they're dramatic, but because the people who produce the elite media are on airplanes so often.)
CK was a social-media personality, or closer to that than anything else. The model he uses to rise to fame was a pre-social-media model, but the end-result during his mid-2010s rise to fame was more-or-less exactly that. In adult life, CK was a political agitator. Activist is the polite was to put it.
Starting already the summer after he graduated high school or so, and until his dying day one month shy of his 32nd birthday, he did nothing but politics and political-party promotionalism. We see a number of others on this path, many of them very-big names: David Hogg, Greta Thunberg. In earlier generations, there was not much of a viable path for people like that to sustain a career in the ways these people have done, CK among them if a bit older. It'd be something you did in brief spurts. The idea of "volunteering for a campaign," which meant less than one year of activity, and then you did normal-work things. Charlie Kirk did it for 13.5 consecutive years. We just accept that this is possible, now, in the age of the social-media influencer and politicized discourse.
I wrote something in one of the Sailer thread, expanding on these thoughts, concluding that the tragic flaw, behind both CK's success and his ultimate assassination, was the Trump 2015-16 moment:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/charlie-kirk-31-rip/comment/154697704
(I wanted to get those thoughts out, but naturally worried throughout that it would sound insensitive. As he was the target of a political assassination, we should be able to think of the man as more than an individual, as a symbol.)
Adam Smith
Wednesday - September 10th 2025 9:02PM MST
PS: Good evening, Mr. Moderator...
I have more to say abut this.
But I don't know what to say.
Rip Charlie Kirk...
https://i.ibb.co/cSsvSCNk/RIP-Charlie-Krik.jpg
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I have more to say abut this.
But I don't know what to say.
Rip Charlie Kirk...
https://i.ibb.co/cSsvSCNk/RIP-Charlie-Krik.jpg
☮️
Biographer Roger Stone - - nit Starr - - wrote this:
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@RogerJStoneJr
I wrote a New York Times best selling book on the Kennedy assassination.
I am finishing a book on the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan and I have studied the two assassination attempts on Donald Trump.
Charlie Kirk was killed by a skilled shooter in a professional hit either by a nation state, rogue elements of our own government or a terrorist organization
This will not stop until they are exposed apprehended, and prosecuted