Posted On: Saturday - February 14th 2026 11:03PM MST
In Topics: Music Media Stupidity
There is something like one non-child-custody-related kidnapping in America per day on average, or maybe 2 per week (AI is not smart enough to get more precise than that.) Yet, this Guthrie story has been all over the www headlines, as much as I’ve worked to avoid it. It’s some journalist’s Mom. To be honest, I don’t care very much about some random journalist’s Mom.
Therefore, Peak Stupidity will feature some music tonight from another Guthrie, an American Communist named Woody. It’s not like we’re gonna feature The Internationale any time soon, but good tunes are good tunes, plus this brings back childhood memories.
You may know the music of this guy’s son better, goes by Arlo, who was Woody’s child from his 2nd out of 3 marriages.* We’ve featured at least 2 of Arlo Guthrie’s songs before, the famous anti-Vietnam War song** and story Alice’s Restaurant Masacree and the excellent train song - written by Steve Goodman*** - City of New Orleans. Politically, Arlo wasn’t too far gone. He was a fan of Ron Paul, but then later supported the George Floyd mayhem. I dunno.
Back to Arlo’s singer/songwriter Dad, I know Woody was some sort of leftist just from his music. Born in 1912 in Oklahoma, his young adult years coincided with the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl years close by in Pampa, Texas - that’s in the panhandle. Leaving his family behind temporarily, Woody was a storied California-bound Okie, riding the rails out to the “promised land”. He didn’t do too badly out there due to his musical talent, and he got into radio.
It was a rough time in America and especially where he came from, but, still, you don’t need to go Communist. That’s not the way out, but Woodie was associated with Communist groups his whole life. This paragraph from his wiki page is just plain weird:
With the outbreak of World War II and the Molotov–Ribbentrop non-aggression pact the Soviet Union had signed with Germany in 1939, the anti-Stalin owners of KFVD radio were not comfortable with Guthrie's political leanings after he wrote a song praising the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the Soviet invasion of Poland. He left the station and went to New York, where he wrote and recorded his 1940 album Dust Bowl Ballads,…Wait. “Anti-Stalin owners”? At a Los Angeles radio station playing this guy’s “Hillbilly Music”, did they really made firing decisions based on who supported the head of the USSR and or not and other political details in Europe? I think the problem is with the wiki editor here - the station fired Woody Guthrie because he was a Communist and wrote Communist songs, plain and simple.
Woody was one of the crowd, discussed here in the context of Senator Joe McCarthy and the Communists in Government, that flipped overnight from being OK with peace in Europe (he wrote “peace songs”) to being anti-Fascist once the American Communists’ beloved Soviet Union paradise was in a war with Fascist Germany.
Note Mr. Guthrie’s sticker on his guitar below. For me, the moniker “Antifa” for “Anti-Fascist” came out of the blue only a decade ago. Nope, as I’ve learned, all this goes back not just 85 years to the singer of Hillbilly music and Dust Bowl Ballads but to a century back in the Old World.
Anyway, Woody Guthrie did well in New York City in the folk music scene there.
In the Almanac House [apartment building in Greenwich Village], Guthrie added authenticity to their work, since he was a "real" working class Oklahoman. "There was the heart of America personified in Woody ... And for a New York Left that was primarily Jewish, first or second generation American, and was desperately trying to get Americanized, I think a figure like Woody was of great, great importance", a friend of the group, Irwin Silber, would say.I don’t think writing Communist or, excuse me “Anti-Fascist”, folk songs is actually “trying to get Americanized”, but what do I know?
Mr. Guthrie wrote his most famous song, This Land is Your Land in 1940. (He worked off an older melody though, with modifications.). The song didn’t get popular until about 15 years later, when a Canadian group, The Travellers, modified a few lyrics and released it. By the 1960s, about everyone in the folk scene sung the song.
We had our own lyrics in my childhood, including something about “I got a shotgun, and you ain’t got one. This land is made for only me.” That’s a bit extreme, but we’d shed that Communist vibe already by 4th grade, though the teacher, yeah, he may have been one, IIRC…
More Woody Guthrie songs, per Adam Smith’s comment:
End of the Line
Grand Coulee Dam
Talking Columbia
Hard Traveling
I Ain't Got No Home in This World Anymore
Dust Bowl Refugee
Hobo's Lullabye
Talking Hard Work
Car Song
Pretty Boy Floyd
OK, we’ll get to that 2nd mid-air crash post and a few on Mike DeWine and the Haitians next week. Thanks for reading. It’s getting LATE.
* The elder Guthrie had a lot of children, but many of them died young and/or of unnatural causes like accidents. So, too, did some other family members. It was something of a tragic life.
** Heh! His wiki page notes: However, Guthrie has stated in multiple interviews that the song is more an "anti-stupidity" song than an anti-war song, …
*** The late Steve Goodman was an excellent songwriter. Besides City of New Orleans, he wrote Banana Republics covered very well by Jimmy Buffet. As David Allan Coe said within the very song, Mr. Goodman also wrote You Don’t Have to Call me Darlin’, Darlin’ or whatever the name of that “perfect country/western song” was.
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Adam Smith
Monday - February 16th 2026 12:55PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Possumman,
𝑂𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑆𝑁𝐿 𝑠𝑘𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝐷𝑦𝑙𝑎𝑛 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑊𝑜𝑜𝑑𝑦 𝐺𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑒 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑠 ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑜𝑜𝑚 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑡ℎ 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑔𝑠!
https://seed128.bitchute.com/n6uHcDkxVpad/9Z5PESkmkcwf.mp4
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Z5PESkmkcwf/
I think this is the skit you're talking about.(?)
I originally posted this to youtube, but youtube flagged it for a copyright violation, so... If anyone has trouble playing a bitchute video I can upload it elsewhere.
Happy Monday! ☮️
𝑂𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑆𝑁𝐿 𝑠𝑘𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝐷𝑦𝑙𝑎𝑛 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑊𝑜𝑜𝑑𝑦 𝐺𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑒 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑠 ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑜𝑜𝑚 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑡ℎ 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑔𝑠!
https://seed128.bitchute.com/n6uHcDkxVpad/9Z5PESkmkcwf.mp4
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Z5PESkmkcwf/
I think this is the skit you're talking about.(?)
I originally posted this to youtube, but youtube flagged it for a copyright violation, so... If anyone has trouble playing a bitchute video I can upload it elsewhere.
Happy Monday! ☮️
Peak Stupidity Book Club
Monday - February 16th 2026 12:55PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, y'all,
The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements
by Eric Hoffer
https://tinyurl.com/2xw4w3nb
https://files.catbox.moe/nrhjqs.pdf
Cheers! ☮️
The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements
by Eric Hoffer
https://tinyurl.com/2xw4w3nb
https://files.catbox.moe/nrhjqs.pdf
Cheers! ☮️
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 9:54AM MST
PS: Good evening, Dieter Kief! I have that Jordan Peterson video cued up for when I have 1:35 to spare. In a few minutes, we’ve got to do some screw-turning on a vehicle of sorts.
Thanks for that take on Bob Dylan. As for his politics, he was sure in the right place at the right time - without that music - not just Dylan’s but all the great folk then ‘60s rock, would the war protest and then the highly destructive racial/welfare/mass immigration* programs have been as big? I often thing the patriotic right in this country would do better with some decent music. (Don’t let Trump pick it out!)
I can’t recall already which girlfriend (in the movie) was Suze Rotolo. The cast has a girl that played the blonde-headed Sylvia Russo. He had more than one in the movie, including Joan Baez. Perhaps the one you mean was his g/f after the movie period, which was only about 2 years of his life. OK, well there is the www, so I see she was his girlfriend from 1961 to 1964. The end of that may or may not have overlapped the supposed period of time in the movie. There may have been some artistic license… I don’t know.
Anyway, I appreciate your doing the spelling that Americans won’t do, on “Antifaschistische Aktion”, for example. Yeah, I don’t know how many Americans know how far back this Antifa business goes. If you’d asked me even just 6 years ago, during that brewhaha over the overdose of that black reprobate, I’d have thought that was a new term still that they made up. It sounded stupid honestly, ending in “fa”.
I see you put in links to 3 videos, I assume all by Mr. Peterson. I’ll try to get to all of them.
* It’s not that I’m saying there were songs or protest about the latter. This was not too much a worry for anyone but the most prescient at that point.
Thanks for that take on Bob Dylan. As for his politics, he was sure in the right place at the right time - without that music - not just Dylan’s but all the great folk then ‘60s rock, would the war protest and then the highly destructive racial/welfare/mass immigration* programs have been as big? I often thing the patriotic right in this country would do better with some decent music. (Don’t let Trump pick it out!)
I can’t recall already which girlfriend (in the movie) was Suze Rotolo. The cast has a girl that played the blonde-headed Sylvia Russo. He had more than one in the movie, including Joan Baez. Perhaps the one you mean was his g/f after the movie period, which was only about 2 years of his life. OK, well there is the www, so I see she was his girlfriend from 1961 to 1964. The end of that may or may not have overlapped the supposed period of time in the movie. There may have been some artistic license… I don’t know.
Anyway, I appreciate your doing the spelling that Americans won’t do, on “Antifaschistische Aktion”, for example. Yeah, I don’t know how many Americans know how far back this Antifa business goes. If you’d asked me even just 6 years ago, during that brewhaha over the overdose of that black reprobate, I’d have thought that was a new term still that they made up. It sounded stupid honestly, ending in “fa”.
I see you put in links to 3 videos, I assume all by Mr. Peterson. I’ll try to get to all of them.
* It’s not that I’m saying there were songs or protest about the latter. This was not too much a worry for anyone but the most prescient at that point.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 9:29AM MST
PS: Mr. Anon, I’d buy one of your T-shirts.
I appreciate the movie recommendation - I’ll have to check it out. One thing the IMDB site does that I don’t like - beside being slow now because all of the graphics/ads - is that they put very recent images of the movie stars, even if it’s an old movie. I’m sure that’s because it’s easier to do - keep one image for each star who might be in many movies. However, if I want to see how pretty this Melinda Dillon WAS (not IS), I’d have to look elsewhere. There is, however, another woman character on that IMDB page that looks very pretty, in B&W.
I appreciate the movie recommendation - I’ll have to check it out. One thing the IMDB site does that I don’t like - beside being slow now because all of the graphics/ads - is that they put very recent images of the movie stars, even if it’s an old movie. I’m sure that’s because it’s easier to do - keep one image for each star who might be in many movies. However, if I want to see how pretty this Melinda Dillon WAS (not IS), I’d have to look elsewhere. There is, however, another woman character on that IMDB page that looks very pretty, in B&W.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 9:25AM MST
PS: If anyone clicked my only link in this post (oddly), you’ll see it doesn’t work - goes back to the main page. Embarrassingly, I could not find my post easily - so I’ll get into the database later and put it in. That was to just what you were talking about, Mr. Anon.
The Communist Jews, and yes, other Communists, in the US State Department Roosevelt during that time flipped their whole program overnight. I hadn’t really thought till reading all that (in the book I really liked about Senator Joe McCarthy) that these people were so damn enamored with the USSR as the example of a Communist paradise. (Did they all get their news from NYT Walter Duranty?)
So, when Stalin and Hitler were in that alliance, they were all for peace. You could have taken some of them out of mid-1960’s protests. No more war! Then Hitler cranked up Operation Barbarossa. “Aggression! Support the USSR! Bring the troops!” At the least they became hard-core anti-Nazi (anti-Fascist like Woody Guthrie). One would think, and I don’t know all this, that they had big reasons to be against Hitler already, pact or no pact, but their Communist support for the Soviet Union beat out all else. Well, this is Ron Unz territory here… He IS good at analyzing all that history.
I bet some of the folk singers changed their lyrics in mid-song when the news was announced.
Back to a reply to Mr. Smith, yes, the word Fascist is used for Trump and ICE, for example, when we know that THEY know (maybe not all the useful idiots) that, ideology aside, Trump and ICE and the job they’ve been doing* don’t and doesn’t resemble anything out of Hitler, Mussolini, or Franco. Now, as far as Communists, again the ideology of the people out there recently on the cold streets of Minnegadishu isn’t out of Das Capital and The Little Red Book, but these people have the same motivations as the Communists of century ago +/- St. Petersburg or Berlin.
* I’ve seen it written that they sure wouldn’t be out there long obstructing ICE and using profanity against these “Fascists” if they WERE actual Fascists.
The Communist Jews, and yes, other Communists, in the US State Department Roosevelt during that time flipped their whole program overnight. I hadn’t really thought till reading all that (in the book I really liked about Senator Joe McCarthy) that these people were so damn enamored with the USSR as the example of a Communist paradise. (Did they all get their news from NYT Walter Duranty?)
So, when Stalin and Hitler were in that alliance, they were all for peace. You could have taken some of them out of mid-1960’s protests. No more war! Then Hitler cranked up Operation Barbarossa. “Aggression! Support the USSR! Bring the troops!” At the least they became hard-core anti-Nazi (anti-Fascist like Woody Guthrie). One would think, and I don’t know all this, that they had big reasons to be against Hitler already, pact or no pact, but their Communist support for the Soviet Union beat out all else. Well, this is Ron Unz territory here… He IS good at analyzing all that history.
I bet some of the folk singers changed their lyrics in mid-song when the news was announced.
Back to a reply to Mr. Smith, yes, the word Fascist is used for Trump and ICE, for example, when we know that THEY know (maybe not all the useful idiots) that, ideology aside, Trump and ICE and the job they’ve been doing* don’t and doesn’t resemble anything out of Hitler, Mussolini, or Franco. Now, as far as Communists, again the ideology of the people out there recently on the cold streets of Minnegadishu isn’t out of Das Capital and The Little Red Book, but these people have the same motivations as the Communists of century ago +/- St. Petersburg or Berlin.
* I’ve seen it written that they sure wouldn’t be out there long obstructing ICE and using profanity against these “Fascists” if they WERE actual Fascists.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 9:10AM MST
PS: Hello, Mr. Anon. Your grade school version is better. It’s possible that we had more lyrics, but I can’t recall - it’s been QUITE a while.
Kids were clever then, but could they post it on YouTube? Really, it’s best to keep them off ANY screens for as long as possible, so they can remain clever.
Kids were clever then, but could they post it on YouTube? Really, it’s best to keep them off ANY screens for as long as possible, so they can remain clever.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 9:07AM MST
PS: Oh, Possumman, I meant to ask you the rough time of that SNL skit. I would think it might be very recent, coming after the scene in “A Complete Unknown”. As I wrote, in the movie, Bob Dylan was hanging out with Woody - at this point Woody couldn’t even talk, but he was aware enough to enjoy music and point things out or IIRC write, at least.
Was the skit changing that around? Maybe it has nothing to do with the movie, obviously if it were from beforehand.
Was the skit changing that around? Maybe it has nothing to do with the movie, obviously if it were from beforehand.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 9:04AM MST
PS: Hello, Possumman. I couldn’t find that one from SNL, though I did enjoy this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSaO5-cTEq8
That’s from 1991, for those who don’t click, errr, cut and paste, willy-nilly, this is a skit with Norm McDonald with pretend Bob Dylan and Tom Petty. (One of them is Dana Carvey, but who’s the guy that’s Tom Petty?). Actually, it’s not THAT funny, so I’d like to see the other one.
Anyway, speaking of Dylan and Woody Guthrie, I did remember the following review we had here from last summer, but somehow I confused in my mind Pete Seeger with Woody Guthrie, I mean, as far as who was dying in the hospital that Bob Dylan visited and tried out his songs on. Pete Seeger was a contemporary of Bob Dylan, of course, so brain fart there. My review of “A Complete Unknown” is here:
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3282
I read over this post of mine , but it came back to me anyway, that my favorite song of Woody Guthrie (till I listen to a few Adam Smith pasted in, perhaps) is “So Long… It’s been good to know ya’. I’d thought it was an old “traditional” as they call it - the Grateful Dead will do some - too old for anyone to even know who wrote it. However, 90 years is pretty dang old, and Woody wrote it that long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSaO5-cTEq8
That’s from 1991, for those who don’t click, errr, cut and paste, willy-nilly, this is a skit with Norm McDonald with pretend Bob Dylan and Tom Petty. (One of them is Dana Carvey, but who’s the guy that’s Tom Petty?). Actually, it’s not THAT funny, so I’d like to see the other one.
Anyway, speaking of Dylan and Woody Guthrie, I did remember the following review we had here from last summer, but somehow I confused in my mind Pete Seeger with Woody Guthrie, I mean, as far as who was dying in the hospital that Bob Dylan visited and tried out his songs on. Pete Seeger was a contemporary of Bob Dylan, of course, so brain fart there. My review of “A Complete Unknown” is here:
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3282
I read over this post of mine , but it came back to me anyway, that my favorite song of Woody Guthrie (till I listen to a few Adam Smith pasted in, perhaps) is “So Long… It’s been good to know ya’. I’d thought it was an old “traditional” as they call it - the Grateful Dead will do some - too old for anyone to even know who wrote it. However, 90 years is pretty dang old, and Woody wrote it that long ago.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 8:55AM MST
PS: Adam, I too am pretty impressed with the Grand Coulee dam and all those massive flood control/hydro* power/irrigation that were built last century - much in the South and then there in the PNW. I can’t recall if I took any tour, but I rode around that area years ago. I just see Woody Guthrie as digging that sort of thing as an example of central Government control. They’d do the same in the USSR, but I doubt the quality was up to olde American standards.
“Property tax, income tax, inheritance tax, civil asset forfeiture, central banking, social security, medicaid, zoning and planning, the CRP program, radio loicensing, vehicle registration, and government school are just some examples of communist policies that American's take for granted.”
Agreed, I am against every single one of these, maybe with an exception of local zoning,.
I may put that song list into this post, but there is one I’ll add. You all will know it - maybe the whole country still does - I’ll mention it in replies to our other commenters.
* Hydro power is really solar power, as that’s what brings the water up to the mountains as snow to make those big rivers what they are.
“Property tax, income tax, inheritance tax, civil asset forfeiture, central banking, social security, medicaid, zoning and planning, the CRP program, radio loicensing, vehicle registration, and government school are just some examples of communist policies that American's take for granted.”
Agreed, I am against every single one of these, maybe with an exception of local zoning,.
I may put that song list into this post, but there is one I’ll add. You all will know it - maybe the whole country still does - I’ll mention it in replies to our other commenters.
* Hydro power is really solar power, as that’s what brings the water up to the mountains as snow to make those big rivers what they are.
Moderator
Monday - February 16th 2026 6:56AM MST
PS: I was semi-offline most of yesterday - did some reading but forewent the writing. Thanks for the interesting comments, all. I’ve got to go for now, but I’ll be back on in a couple of hours here.
Dieter Kief
Monday - February 16th 2026 2:18AM MST
PS
Hi! - - with a Monday Cat's Eye - - kinda - -
@Mr. Anon - - I loved the Woody-Guthrie movie - - which of course was not very well thought out politically - but - vibe-vise it is great.
Dylan though - - did not fall for the left's totalitarianisms. Maybe he learned that ex-negativo from Woody Guthrie not least. - He had other sources aplenty too for his firm anti-totalitarian insights (he looked deeply into Brooklyn's REd Diaper territory - -not least via girlfriend Suze Rotolo - but also via all the folkies in Gerde's...)- and did stay away from all kinds of involvements that were put onto him - until he - time and time again - - shook 'em off!
So great singer, great soul Woody Guthrie - - - I wonder what he would have made of the firmestly anti-totalitarian californian Longshore-philosopher - had he ever met him: Eric Hoffer - Book: -TRue Believer (1951) - - about the false promises of all kinds of political collectivisms not least!
@ Mod. - -JB Peterson and the left's wrong take on the Soviet Union and - the resulting pseudo-antifascism: Some links - - via grok:
Here are three to four relevant links that directly support or expand on Jordan Peterson's views regarding the West's selective historical blindness to Soviet totalitarianism (and its massive death toll compared to Nazism), as well as the communist origins of Antifa in the Weimar Republic's Antifaschistische Aktion (a Stalinist KPD organization), which he and his guests (like Andy Ngo) tie to modern Antifa's ideological weaknesses and selective "anti-fascism."
Jordan Peterson's lecture on Existentialism via Solzhenitsyn and the Gulag (2017 Personality Lecture 13) – This is one of his core discussions on Soviet horrors, the Gulag system, Solzhenitsyn's revelations, and why Western education/culture largely ignores communist atrocities while fixating on Nazi ones, creating dangerous blind spots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w84uRYq0Uc8
"This is not widespread knowledge" – Jordan Peterson on Soviet History (clip from the above lecture) – A focused excerpt emphasizing the staggering lack of awareness in the West about Soviet crimes and the ideological sympathy that enabled it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPfWThToClo
ANTIFA: The Rise of the Violent Left | Andy Ngo | EP 239 (Jordan Peterson Podcast) – Peterson interviews Andy Ngo on modern Antifa, its tactics, media minimization, and historical roots (implicitly touching on communist origins and parallels to totalitarian methods). This ties into Peterson's broader critique of selective memory and left-wing authoritarianism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_UjbQSf2w
Antifaschistische Aktion (Wikipedia entry on the original Weimar-era group) – For primary historical context on Antifa's communist/Stalinist founding by the KPD in 1932, which modern revivals often downplay or ignore—aligning with Peterson's point about ideological inheritance without self-reflection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
Hi! - - with a Monday Cat's Eye - - kinda - -
@Mr. Anon - - I loved the Woody-Guthrie movie - - which of course was not very well thought out politically - but - vibe-vise it is great.
Dylan though - - did not fall for the left's totalitarianisms. Maybe he learned that ex-negativo from Woody Guthrie not least. - He had other sources aplenty too for his firm anti-totalitarian insights (he looked deeply into Brooklyn's REd Diaper territory - -not least via girlfriend Suze Rotolo - but also via all the folkies in Gerde's...)- and did stay away from all kinds of involvements that were put onto him - until he - time and time again - - shook 'em off!
So great singer, great soul Woody Guthrie - - - I wonder what he would have made of the firmestly anti-totalitarian californian Longshore-philosopher - had he ever met him: Eric Hoffer - Book: -TRue Believer (1951) - - about the false promises of all kinds of political collectivisms not least!
@ Mod. - -JB Peterson and the left's wrong take on the Soviet Union and - the resulting pseudo-antifascism: Some links - - via grok:
Here are three to four relevant links that directly support or expand on Jordan Peterson's views regarding the West's selective historical blindness to Soviet totalitarianism (and its massive death toll compared to Nazism), as well as the communist origins of Antifa in the Weimar Republic's Antifaschistische Aktion (a Stalinist KPD organization), which he and his guests (like Andy Ngo) tie to modern Antifa's ideological weaknesses and selective "anti-fascism."
Jordan Peterson's lecture on Existentialism via Solzhenitsyn and the Gulag (2017 Personality Lecture 13) – This is one of his core discussions on Soviet horrors, the Gulag system, Solzhenitsyn's revelations, and why Western education/culture largely ignores communist atrocities while fixating on Nazi ones, creating dangerous blind spots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w84uRYq0Uc8
"This is not widespread knowledge" – Jordan Peterson on Soviet History (clip from the above lecture) – A focused excerpt emphasizing the staggering lack of awareness in the West about Soviet crimes and the ideological sympathy that enabled it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPfWThToClo
ANTIFA: The Rise of the Violent Left | Andy Ngo | EP 239 (Jordan Peterson Podcast) – Peterson interviews Andy Ngo on modern Antifa, its tactics, media minimization, and historical roots (implicitly touching on communist origins and parallels to totalitarian methods). This ties into Peterson's broader critique of selective memory and left-wing authoritarianism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_UjbQSf2w
Antifaschistische Aktion (Wikipedia entry on the original Weimar-era group) – For primary historical context on Antifa's communist/Stalinist founding by the KPD in 1932, which modern revivals often downplay or ignore—aligning with Peterson's point about ideological inheritance without self-reflection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
Mr. Anon
Sunday - February 15th 2026 7:22PM MST
PS
The pretentious conceit of putting a "This Machine Kills Fascists" on his guitar is laughable*. Guthrie really should be the patron saint (if commies have saints) for all those antifa poseurs.
And of course the fact that he supported the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the partition of Poland goes to show that he was just another doctrinaire commie, slavishly devoted to the party line. Much like the screen-writer Dalton Trumbo, who was ardently anti-war, right up until June 22nd, 1941, when the Soviet Union was invaded.
Anybody remember the 1976 biopic of Guthrie starring David Carradine in the title role, "Bound for Glory"?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074235/?ref_=nm_knf_t_2
As I recall, they downplayed his commie leanings and affiliations. It did however feature the very lovely actress Melinda Dillon.
*Idea for a T-shirt slogan: "This fascist kills folk singers"
The pretentious conceit of putting a "This Machine Kills Fascists" on his guitar is laughable*. Guthrie really should be the patron saint (if commies have saints) for all those antifa poseurs.
And of course the fact that he supported the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the partition of Poland goes to show that he was just another doctrinaire commie, slavishly devoted to the party line. Much like the screen-writer Dalton Trumbo, who was ardently anti-war, right up until June 22nd, 1941, when the Soviet Union was invaded.
Anybody remember the 1976 biopic of Guthrie starring David Carradine in the title role, "Bound for Glory"?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074235/?ref_=nm_knf_t_2
As I recall, they downplayed his commie leanings and affiliations. It did however feature the very lovely actress Melinda Dillon.
*Idea for a T-shirt slogan: "This fascist kills folk singers"
Mr. Anon
Sunday - February 15th 2026 7:00PM MST
PS
"We had our own lyrics in my childhood, including something about “I got a shotgun, and you ain’t got one. This land is made for only me.” That’s a bit extreme, but we’d shed that Communist vibe already by 4th grade, though the teacher, yeah, he may have been one, IIRC…"
Ah yes, I well remember the lyrics from my school days:
This land is my land,
Nobody else's,
I got a shotgun,
And you don't got one,
I'll blow your head off,
If you don't get off,
This land is private property.
Kids were clever back then.
"We had our own lyrics in my childhood, including something about “I got a shotgun, and you ain’t got one. This land is made for only me.” That’s a bit extreme, but we’d shed that Communist vibe already by 4th grade, though the teacher, yeah, he may have been one, IIRC…"
Ah yes, I well remember the lyrics from my school days:
This land is my land,
Nobody else's,
I got a shotgun,
And you don't got one,
I'll blow your head off,
If you don't get off,
This land is private property.
Kids were clever back then.
Possumman
Sunday - February 15th 2026 2:27PM MST
PS. One of the funniest SNL skits was Dylan meeting Woody Guthrie in his hospital room and writing down every line out of his mouth to use in his songs!
Adam Smith
Sunday - February 15th 2026 12:03PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Dieter & Achmed!
Happy Sunday! to you too, Dieter!
𝐴 𝐶𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝐼 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒...
End of the Line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHvXNGrOvRA
Grand Coulee Dam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lu8UeLK9gk
Talking Columbia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z58V-NxJcEI
Here's (the rest of) a quick Woody Guthrie PlayList...
Hard Traveling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=busZs8xUUqs
I Ain't Got No Home in This World Anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTnVMulDTYA
Dust Bowl Refugee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA4xMqKJI4c
Hobo's Lullabye:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN_xvE79iXE
Talking Hard Work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQOS3hKIa8
Car Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDtFdnn9oQ
Pretty Boy Floyd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4YKUJZI5Bg
I tried to include some lesser known Guthrie tunes, but to be honest, I'm such a hermit that I have no idea what "lesser known" might really mean. In any case, these are a few of the Guthrie songs you can find on the SD card in my car. (I saved the best for last.)
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𝐼 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑛’𝑡 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑑 𝑚𝑢𝑐ℎ 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝐽𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑎𝑛 𝑃𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦...
https://nypost.com/2025/10/05/us-news/jordan-peterson-was-near-death-due-to-pneumonia-sepsis-daughter/
Might have something to do with it.(?)
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I really have no way of knowing this, but I suspect that words like 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡 or 𝑓𝑎𝑠𝑐𝑖𝑠𝑡 might have meant something a little different to Woody Guthrie than they do to most people today. They are both good examples of words that have been a bit bastardized and now mean little more than 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 (𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒) 𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ. It's a little unfortunate because the words we use (should) have meaning.
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𝐴 𝐶𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝐼 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒...
America has been a (mostly) communist country for more than 100+ years in many important ways. (Property tax, income tax, inheritance tax, civil asset forfeiture, central banking, social security, medicaid, zoning and planning, the CRP program, radio loicensing, vehicle registration, and government school are just some examples of communist policies that American's take for granted.)
Was Guthrie actually a communist?
Would he like modern America?
(Anyway...) I noticed that Achmed responded to some comments a few posts back, so I'm going to go check that out.
I hope you guys have a wonderful rest of the weekend.
Cheers! ☮️
Happy Sunday! to you too, Dieter!
𝐴 𝐶𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝐼 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒...
End of the Line:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHvXNGrOvRA
Grand Coulee Dam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lu8UeLK9gk
Talking Columbia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z58V-NxJcEI
Here's (the rest of) a quick Woody Guthrie PlayList...
Hard Traveling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=busZs8xUUqs
I Ain't Got No Home in This World Anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTnVMulDTYA
Dust Bowl Refugee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA4xMqKJI4c
Hobo's Lullabye:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN_xvE79iXE
Talking Hard Work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQOS3hKIa8
Car Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDtFdnn9oQ
Pretty Boy Floyd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4YKUJZI5Bg
I tried to include some lesser known Guthrie tunes, but to be honest, I'm such a hermit that I have no idea what "lesser known" might really mean. In any case, these are a few of the Guthrie songs you can find on the SD card in my car. (I saved the best for last.)
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𝐼 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑛’𝑡 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑑 𝑚𝑢𝑐ℎ 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝐽𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑎𝑛 𝑃𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦...
https://nypost.com/2025/10/05/us-news/jordan-peterson-was-near-death-due-to-pneumonia-sepsis-daughter/
Might have something to do with it.(?)
---------
I really have no way of knowing this, but I suspect that words like 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡 or 𝑓𝑎𝑠𝑐𝑖𝑠𝑡 might have meant something a little different to Woody Guthrie than they do to most people today. They are both good examples of words that have been a bit bastardized and now mean little more than 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 (𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒) 𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑎𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ. It's a little unfortunate because the words we use (should) have meaning.
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𝐴 𝐶𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝐼 𝑠𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑒...
America has been a (mostly) communist country for more than 100+ years in many important ways. (Property tax, income tax, inheritance tax, civil asset forfeiture, central banking, social security, medicaid, zoning and planning, the CRP program, radio loicensing, vehicle registration, and government school are just some examples of communist policies that American's take for granted.)
Was Guthrie actually a communist?
Would he like modern America?
(Anyway...) I noticed that Achmed responded to some comments a few posts back, so I'm going to go check that out.
I hope you guys have a wonderful rest of the weekend.
Cheers! ☮️
Moderator
Sunday - February 15th 2026 8:07AM MST
PS: It’s always great to hear from you, Dieter. I agree Totalitarianly, errr, totally, with your 2nd paragraph. I’d be great if you had a link of JP talking about the Antifa movement - I haven’t heard much from him lately - that may be my problem, not his.
Regarding your PS, yes, I read about that. The posts get too long very easily, so I left that out along with interesting stuff about Woody Guthrie’s time out in the Pacific Northwest. He was pretty impressed with the area. Part of it was likely that the US Gov’t the one funding the big infrastructure projects in eastern Washington, with the Grand Coulee dam being the biggest example. A Communist would like that, I suppose.
You too, Dieter.
Regarding your PS, yes, I read about that. The posts get too long very easily, so I left that out along with interesting stuff about Woody Guthrie’s time out in the Pacific Northwest. He was pretty impressed with the area. Part of it was likely that the US Gov’t the one funding the big infrastructure projects in eastern Washington, with the Grand Coulee dam being the biggest example. A Communist would like that, I suppose.
You too, Dieter.
Dieter Kief
Sunday - February 15th 2026 6:14AM MST
PS
I like the sticker bc. it - ironises the "shoot'em Faschos dead!" - hard-edged antifascists. And hard edged Anti-Fascism in general kinda.
The Anti-fasicsm attitude was - btw. - totalitarian from the start because it meant taking the sides of the revolutionary Russian attempt to - take over the whole damn world and - make it - - just, equal and - happy.
That is often overlooked.
Would I be able to name one prominent intellectiual pointing this basic shrewdness of the whole Anti-Fascism movement out?
- Jordan B. Peterson! - He is in there with me.
PS
The Guthries were cursed by a genetic condition which caused Corea Huntington Disease in - some of them. Bob Dylan took that terrible illness on his shoulder too somehow by often visiting the dying Woody Guthrie.
PPS - I liked your Hossenfelder reasonings, Mod. - And I argued later directly in tha tvein - -just a few weeks ago: That it is flatout wrong to use one pühysical principle - like Stefan-Bolztmann - law/ cosntant - and use that to analyze the CO-2 impact. - - - And as it turns out, William Happer and Richard Lindzen especially built their papers around this thougth - -as I found out after outr Hossenfelder-debate.
PPPS - - I might have mentioned before here that I see an intlelectual continuity between the thinking of my Konstnaz philosohy teacher Friedrich Kambartel - and the arguments Sabine Hossenferlder brigns forward not least against quantum physics but also in some fields in mathematics - ehhhh - voilá: As I found out .t.o.d.a.y., she refers to mathmatician / philosopher Friedrich Kambartel explicitly as the one who teached (!) her to have a criticla eye on the brilliance of formal systems - because - their brilliance is in not just a few cases - deceptive (=empty/misleading).
- Ha!
- Kambartel's over-arching thought being, that formal systems alone never bring a "sane society" (Erich Fromm) into fruition - unless they are imbedded in a supportive /critical culture. - Yep!
Happy sunday everybody!
I like the sticker bc. it - ironises the "shoot'em Faschos dead!" - hard-edged antifascists. And hard edged Anti-Fascism in general kinda.
The Anti-fasicsm attitude was - btw. - totalitarian from the start because it meant taking the sides of the revolutionary Russian attempt to - take over the whole damn world and - make it - - just, equal and - happy.
That is often overlooked.
Would I be able to name one prominent intellectiual pointing this basic shrewdness of the whole Anti-Fascism movement out?
- Jordan B. Peterson! - He is in there with me.
PS
The Guthries were cursed by a genetic condition which caused Corea Huntington Disease in - some of them. Bob Dylan took that terrible illness on his shoulder too somehow by often visiting the dying Woody Guthrie.
PPS - I liked your Hossenfelder reasonings, Mod. - And I argued later directly in tha tvein - -just a few weeks ago: That it is flatout wrong to use one pühysical principle - like Stefan-Bolztmann - law/ cosntant - and use that to analyze the CO-2 impact. - - - And as it turns out, William Happer and Richard Lindzen especially built their papers around this thougth - -as I found out after outr Hossenfelder-debate.
PPPS - - I might have mentioned before here that I see an intlelectual continuity between the thinking of my Konstnaz philosohy teacher Friedrich Kambartel - and the arguments Sabine Hossenferlder brigns forward not least against quantum physics but also in some fields in mathematics - ehhhh - voilá: As I found out .t.o.d.a.y., she refers to mathmatician / philosopher Friedrich Kambartel explicitly as the one who teached (!) her to have a criticla eye on the brilliance of formal systems - because - their brilliance is in not just a few cases - deceptive (=empty/misleading).
- Ha!
- Kambartel's over-arching thought being, that formal systems alone never bring a "sane society" (Erich Fromm) into fruition - unless they are imbedded in a supportive /critical culture. - Yep!
Happy sunday everybody!
𝐼 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑠𝑘 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑆𝑁𝐿 𝑠𝑘𝑖𝑡...
The internet tells me that this skit originally aired on December 20, 1980. (And you know it must be true because it is on the internet.)
However... After a little investigation I think this was actually episode 5 (of season 6) and not episode 7 as it says in the bitchute description. (I guess I should probably change it.)
𝐻𝑦𝑑𝑟𝑜 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑎𝑟 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟, 𝑎𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑢𝑝 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑏𝑖𝑔 𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒...
I never thought of it like that. (Makes sense. Thanks.)
It's too nice here to play on the computer, so I'm going to go plant some poppies or something.
Later! ☮️